- 03/21/2012, 08:45PM ET
[Mahewman]Big Bad Bruins said 03/21, 08:45 PM
Today we will be building two super players.
1st. Starting with attributes from current NHL forwards ONLY.
2nd. Same attributes for Defensemen ONLY.
3rd. Argue Choices. If you choose to argue in the first or 2nd thats fine.
You cannot use the same player twice or the same TEAM twice. Ex. Cannot use Chara and Lucic.
Hands/Dangles: Datsyuk (DET)
Vision: Crosby (PITT)
Skates: Ovechkin (WASH)
Slap Shot: Kovalchuk (NJ)
Wrist Shot/SnapShot: Michael Ryder (Dallas)
Finishing Ability: Stamkos (TB)
Passing/Playmaker: H. Sedin (VAN)
Captain: Jarome Iginla (CALGARY)
Enforcer: Shawn Thornton (BOS)
Checking: Cal Clutterbuck (MIN)
Two Way Player/Backchecking: Ryan Callahan (NYR)
Let's Build some pros.
Argos. said 03/21, 09:28 PM
I'll keep my arguments to a minimum.
Skates: Gaborik (NYR) over Ovechkin
Since when was Ovie known for his skating?
Slap Shot: Ovie (Caps) over Kovalchuk
Ovie is known for his slapper
Wrist Shot: Kessel (Tor) over Ryder
Say what you want about Kessel, but he has one of the quickest, if not the quickest, releases in the NHL and a deadly wrist shot. The rest of his game can use some improvements, but what a wrister.
Enforcer: Boogard (Ducks) over Thornton
Two Way: Patrice Bergeron (Bos) over Callahan
Centres tend to be better backcheckers, Bergeron is one of the best.
I hate the Canucks.
[Mahewman]Big Bad Bruins said 03/22, 09:01 PM
Just a couple quick snippets then ill get into my defender.
The Enforcer has thrown me for a loop. Who are you even talking about? Aaron Boogard? He isn't in the NHL. Derek, as you must know, is no longer with us. If you meant Parros, then idk where Boogaard came from.
Gaborik vs Ovechkin. Skates.
Ovechkin isn't "known" for any one trait. A debate could be made that you could slot him in almost any attribute. Ovi is explosive with the puck and it starts with the way he skates. His acceleration is top notch.
Kessel vs Ryder.
Both great choices. Kessel has better accuracy, but Ryder has the ability to put the puck top shelf just about as fast as anyone out there. His doesn't have the legs like Kessel but he sure as hell can get off one hell of a wrister.
Hands: Boyle (SJ)
Vision: Keith Yandle (Phoenix)
Skates: Duncan Keith (Chi)
Slap Shot: Shea Weber (Nash)
Finishing: Erik Karlsson (Ott)
Passing: Doughty (LA)
Captain: Campbell (Florida)
Enforcer: Gleason (Canes)
Checking: Luke Schenn (Tor)
Got rid of some because our options are limited.
Argos. said 03/22, 09:15 PM
Oh, I have no clue what I was thinking, did my argument fast. Paros is my correct pick...
Ovie is a big man, not known for speed. Gaborik is among the fastest, if not the fastest in the NHL.
Skating: Karlsson over Keith
Karlsson is probably the best skater in the NHL, right now. So effortless, so fast. Keith is good, but Karlsson is faster.
Finishing: Streit over Karlsson
Not as good at finishing as Karlsson, but had to make this change, and pretty damn good at finishing.
Captain: Phaneuf over Campbell....
Just joking. I wont do a change here.
Checking: Chris Pronger over Schenn
Pronger is mean, and a hard hitter. The only reason that Schenn has been among the league leaders in hits the last two years is because; 1) The Leafs home official scorekeeper is generous, he gives hits/blockshots/shots for anything, 2) The Leafs suck, and the other team always has the puck, which means more hit opportunities
Tough to leave Keith off, but he is kinda really really great at everything, but not the best at anything.
[Mahewman]Big Bad Bruins said 03/23, 12:44 AM
The reason i chose Keith was because he is BOTH fast skating backwards and forwards. He narrowly lost to Letang in the backwards skating contest, who we couldn't choose due to Crosby.
Finishing: I honestly wanted to put Streit in their somewhere but i just couldn't. Streit could be considered for a lot of different categories but i'm not sure Finishing is where I would put him. He is more of a playmaker than finisher.
His career high in goals is 16 and only has 6 this year.
Karlsson is just getting started and he already has 19 this year.
Karlsson plays like a forward and has the finish of a forward.
Overall, with Duncan Keiths wheels and Karlsson's finish, my pro would be at least 2 points higher if we were to make NHL BE A PRO's in NHL 12. haha
Checking: Now i did have Pronger as my captain then took him out due to his injury. Who knows how mean Pronger will be when he comes back. Schenn has 200+ more hits this year! :)
I have never heard about the Leafs scorekeeper being generous but that is hilarious.
To finish, i do love your Patrice Bergeron pick.
Argos. said 03/24, 02:04 PM
Checking: Pronger at 50% is still a better checker than Schenn and nearly every other NHL player.
The Leafs scorekeeper is so generous. Hence, the Leafs being 4th in the NHL in hits this year, despite being a small team that does not hit.
Pronger hits for injure, and his hits hurt. He is great at it, and one of the best all-time.
Skating: Karlsson has wheels, and is the best skater in all of hockey, in any direction. Keith is pretty good, but it is no contest.
Finishing: Karlsson has an edge, but Streit is one of the best PP QBs in the league, and constantly, when healthy, one of the top scorers among NHL d-men in the league. He is no slouch.
I got big edges at forward at; Skating, and two-way. I also have smaller edges at wrist shot and slapper. I'll give you enforcer.
For defense, I got edges in skating and checking, while you maintain an advantage in finishing.
Overall, I'm better. I win. :)
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