- 05/03/2012, 06:33AM ET
MagicSpecs said 05/03, 07:22 AM
Albert Pujols and the LA Angels.
I was going to go for Reyes and the Marlins, but when I thought about it a bit more I just couldn't do it.
I know the season is still very young, but IMO enough of the season has taken place to allow this TD. (And let's face it, we're getting desparate). Any disappointment is welcome for this TD whether it is a player, team, manager, event, whatever.
As of right now Prince Albert is batting a cool .208 with no home runs, 5 RBIs, a .252 OBP and a .287 slugging %.
Admittedly, the sample size is smallish, but there are also few (if any) signs of improvement. Pujols has had 101 at bats - representing more than a sixth of a whole season. If Pujols were to total 600 ABs this season he'd need to hit .340 the rest of the way to bring the year back to his career average.
And this comes all on the back of signing the 3rd largest sports contract OF ALL TIME.
Meanwhile, the Angels sit proudly at the bottom of the easiest division in baseball, behind the powerhouse Mariners and A's franchises. Whilst their current deficit is by no means an insurmountable gap, this is disappointing for fans, players and management alike.
Marlins Fan said 05/04, 01:48 AM
Pujols is a great choice and would probably be a better choice than the Marlins' bunch if I were to use any single one of them on their own, but for me the biggest disappointment of the 2012 MLB season so far has been the collective efforts of Miami's top dogs, Hanley Ramirez, Josh Johnson, Giancarlo Stanton, Jose Reyes and Heath Bell.
Real quickly I want to point out where the Angels and Marlins rank in terms of offense:
Angels: 19th in runs
Marlins: 29th in runs
Miami has scored fewer runs than any MLB team not named the Pittsburgh Pirates. Pathetic, especially for a team "loaded" with offensive talent.
Pujols has been bad, but the Angels' offense isn't suffering as much as Miami's because of his struggles. The Marlins, on the other hand, have been absolutely anemic on offense and it really shows in the teams' offensive ranking.
I'll get to the individual stats in the next arguments, but I want to point out some more offensive team rankings:
Marlins: 28th in BA
Angels: 18th in BA
Marlins: 27th in OBP
Angels: 24th in OBP
Marlins: 24th in SLG
Angels: 19th in SLG
Marlins: 26th in TB (total bases)
Angels: 20th in TB
Good topic and good luck.
MagicSpecs said 05/04, 12:27 PM
Direct comparisons between AL and NL offensive numbers are misleading. The Marlins bat every day with 8 hitters and a pitcher, the Angels have 9 hitters. This leads to statistical imbalance.
Despite being bottom of the NL East, Miami is currently just 2 wins out of a wildcard spot. They sit in a thoroughly winnable division, and are still well in contention despite their slow-ish start.
Reyes is showing signs of vintage Jose, with 5 hits, 4 walks and 3 stolen bases in the last 4 days.
Giancarlo "I was better when my name was Mike" Stanton (already developing a reputation as a slow starter - not to mention battling with a nagging knee injury) is also stirring from his slumber with at least 1 hit in each of his last 6 games, and 3 homers during that stretch.
Josh Johnson is so far the unluckiest pitcher of '12. Granted, he's given up 41 hits over his 5 starts, but he's not being hit hard. Of those 41 hits, 37 were singles and 4 were doubles. Not a single homer given up. His BABIP is .436! JJ looks good, and when his BABIP evens out he'll be fine.
Pujols went hitless again last night. It's got so bad that he's shaved his beard.
Marlins Fan said 05/05, 03:54 AM
True; the Leagues have different lineups. However, Kendrys Morales, the Angels' DH, has grand totals of 2 HRs and 8 RBI, so clearly the DH "position" hasn't helped boost the Angels' offensive totals much, if at all.
And those numbers you presented for the Marlins' players... pretty misleading. Let's see if I can put those stats into perspective here...
Jose Reyes is getting on base at a .311 clip. Reyes is hitting .226 overall.
Hanley Ramirez is hitting .198.
Giancarlo (I agree; he was better as Mike) Stanton's OBP is .308.
Those are some of the most putrid offensive numbers I've seen in a long time. The A's laugh at these guys. The Padres snicker about the Marlins.
But Miami's hitting has been a thing of beauty when compared to the pitching of "ace" Josh Johnson and big-money closer Heath Bell.
After getting blown up -again- tonight by allowing 6 earned runs in 2.2 innings, JJ's ERA stands at 6.61. JJ hasn't won a single game this year, despite pitching against bad offensive teams for the most part.
Bell has been even worse. Big Heath blew another save tonight. His ERA is 11.42.
Doesn't get any wose that. Bell should be ashamed of himself.
MagicSpecs said 05/08, 04:56 AM
Firstly, I apologise again for failing to post a response sooner.
Reyes and Stanton have turned the corner. Reyes' OBP over the last 10 games is .413, whilst Giancarlo "I'm OK with my new name after all" Stanton has 6HRs, 12 RBIs and is batting .333 over the same span. Pretty decent.
Whilst HanRam, Johnson and Bell have been undoubtedly putrid, Pujols' production is certainly comparable. But the fact that Pujols is even being compared with players of this lesser calibre is only proof that he is so far the greatest disappointment this season.
Pujols now has 117 ABs for the season, and is BELOW THE MENDOZA LINE. His OPS this year is nearly half of that for his whole career.
Of all the players mentioned so far Pujols had the highest pre-season expectation. As a slam-dunk hall-of-famer to be, fresh from signing the 3rd richest sports contract of all time he hit 7 HRs in spring training. The expectation was that Pujols would maintain his career production and propel the Angels into AL West contention.
Pujols and the Angels have been the greatest disappointment of 2012 to date, because their performance has been the poorest in relation to expectation.
Marlins Fan said 05/09, 01:26 AM
Pujols is going to bounce back. He's in a new League, playing with new teammates against new pitchers... and he's done this before. In 2011 people were all over Pujols' case to start the year because he got off to a slower-than-usual start. Granted it wasn't for the same length of time as it's been this year, but through the first couple weeks of the 2011 season Pujols was hitting well under .300 with only one HR.
More specifically, in April of 2011 Pujols hit .257. In May of 2011 Pujols only managed to hit 2 HR. His numbers were way down and fans were consternated.
But we all know how that story ends. The Cardinals won the World Series; Pujols dominated Rangers' pitching throughout; Pujols had possibly the greatest single-game WS performance in MLB history in Game 3 when he went 5-for-6 with 3 HRs, 6 RBI and 4 runs scored.
All that early-season 2011 worry was for naught; Pujols got back on track and propelled the Cardinals to a WS victory, dominating every step of the way.
Fans are fickle and short-sighted. Pujols is adjusting and it's taking a while, but he'll recover and the Angels will be glad they signed him.
Not so sure about the Marlins players...
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