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  • 05/25/2012, 09:56PM ET

The Return of Mount Rushmore Welterweights

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The creator of MRT has returned.

Little different.

I'm going to name 2, then you name (only) your 4.

Then its my turn.

In this instance. UFC 146 and beyond DO NOT Matter
For all we know, Dave Hermans gonna win his next 15 Fights.

Welterweight - ANY fighter who rolled the Majority from 1z0-185

Shocker who the Corners are

GSP (corner)

And
Nick Diaz


Matt Hughes

Jon Fitch

Carlos Condit

Pat Miletich

I guess I'm just listing first then arguing?


Uh, Jim?

Kudos on Condit, I thought most would miss him

BUT

Matt is Bookend
Condit
Pat

And.

Instead of Fitch


I got



GSP


Seems like your weird game is in your favor. Not sure what kind of weirdo crap you're trying to pull, but let me try and KO your stupid ass.

I'm taking Fitch instead of Diaz. Why? Fitch is 22-2 in his last 24 fights at 170. He's been the 2nd best welterweight in the UFC for the past 7 years.

Fitch has beaten some of the top WW's MMA. He's beaten Alves twice, Diego Sanchez, Paulo Thiago, Mike Pierce, and Ben Saunders.

He won 16 fights in a row before losing to GSP via decision.

Since his loss to GSP he's gone 5-1-1. HIs one draw was versus the former UFC W champ BJ penn. He then lost to Johnny Hendricks, and Hendricks is in line to fight for the title.

Now, while Nick has had a good streak going, his UFC record is pretty average. He's 6-5 in the UFC. He has losses to Parisyan, Sanchez, Riggs, Sherk, and Condit.

Quite average if you ask me.

Now you bookend Hughes and GSP, so do I.

Your selection of Diaz is off point.

Its obvious Fitch is above Diaz in the all time WW pecking order.


Nope. Small Print.

Matt (Bookend)
Condit
Diaz
GSP (bookend)

Not trying to pull crap.

I would think you would know better of me by now.

I have NO idea how you do not have GSP on the Mount Rushmore. GSP has BEATEN Matt Hughes TWICE. Beaten BJ Penn TWICE. Beaten Fitch.

Explain to me how you miss him?

Our Differences are

Diaz and GSP vs Pat and Fitch.

Diaz is on a 14-2-1 streak, with wins over Frank Shamrock and retired BJ Penn.
True, he hasn't faced the names Fitch has, but he has a draw with Penn, whom Diaz retired.


Guess I'm forced to argue Miletich vs GSP.

Miletich started his career at 25-2-2. He was 31. GSP is currently 22-2. He's currently 31.

Both guys won the UFC Welterweight title and defended it several times.

What separates the two guys IMO is the number of finishes both men had in their career.

Of GSP's 22 wins, 13 are by finish. Of Miletich's 29 wins, 23 were by finish. Pat finished fights. The knock on GSP and what makes me not a big fan of his, is his willingness to gain top position or jab for 5 rounds. His last few fights have been plain boring.

One other big criticism of GSP is his tapping to strikes in the 1st Matt Serra fight. Tapping to strikes has to knock GSP down a notch or two. MMA fighters, especially the top ones, don't tap to strikes.

With GSP's current knee injury its tough to say where he'll end up, and according to your rules we can't look past today to determine who's had the better career.

So, what I'll say is based on Miletich's 25 wins at the same current age as GSP and his 19 finishes to GSP's 13, Miltech deserves the edge.

Both guys were UFC champs, but Militech knew how to finish fights. GSP has to relearn how to.

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May 26, 2012  01:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Dave's been around quite a bit lately. I was contemplating taking his MW one too but I'll let someone else do it.

I can TD on my phone.

May 26, 2012  03:21 AM ET

i call total BS by left. picks Diaz in opening argument, then excludes him in his final list after seeing Jim's selections? i don't think so.

May 26, 2012  03:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

So, we're announcing what we did, David? You created MR TD's. I created the phrase, "TD Wh0re!!!"

not to sound like a d!ck, but that's a stupid phrase.

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