- 06/01/2012, 01:32AM ET
7#bag _ Com said 06/01, 01:32 AM
Vegas has released the win titals for this year
Let's look at the Packers Sched
Sep 9SF Leaning win strongly
Sep 13CHI Win
Sep 24@SEA Win
Sep 30NOR Win
Oct 7@IND Win
Oct 14@HOU Win
Oct 21@STL Win
Oct 28JAC Win
Nov 4ARI Win
Nov 18@DET Win
Nov 25@NYG Win
Dec 2MIN Win
Dec 9DET Win
Dec 16@CHI Loss
Dec 23TEN Win
Dec 30@MIN Leaning Loss
That's 13-1 with a split the other 2, I only consider SF a possible loss due to huge additions and a solid offensive mind there, plus being week 1, weather is a non-factor
Easy cover the 12 wins vegas gives them
Lightly Salted Nuts said 06/02, 09:09 AM
I don't know whether I'm arguing totals or where the wins and losses will take place. For the most part, I think you're on point. My weakness here is I'm a homer on this one. But just for entertainment value and to bust my TD cherry, let's say this:
Sep 9 SF Win (I think it will be good but Smith is still a limited QB getting in sync with new targets; advantage GB)
Sep 13 CHI Win
Sep 24 @SEA Win
Sep 30 NOR Win
Oct 7 @IND Win
Oct 14 @HOU Loss (I think Wade Phillips D will offer up a significant challenge to the Pack this game)
Oct 21 @STL Win
Oct 28 JAC Win
Nov 4 ARI Win
Nov 18 @DET Loss (I think they split with their home games)
Nov 25 @NYG Loss (GMen at home will be tough; I think Eli pulls off another close one)
Dec 2 MIN Win
Dec 9 DET Win
Dec 16 @CHI Loss
Dec 23 TEN Win
Dec 30 @MIN Win
I'll give them the 12-4 record. Just a difference where I see the losses coming.
7#bag _ Com said 06/02, 03:33 PM
So you are arguing the Push?
I don't think Houston has improved that much to take down the Packers. I don't think they are going to lose much with Mario Williams gone. But after an easy week with IND, the staff is going to have 2 weeks to prepare for them, and the Packs O-Line is going to keep Rodgers upright for the entire game. The Pack win this one fairly easy.
Thanksgiving should be interesting. I like the Giants. But the Packers are going to be up for this game, and they are used to the short week.
The Giants were 9-7 for a reason, Title be danged. I just don't see a motivated Pack letting the Giants spoil the holiday.
Likewise, I like the Lions. They have a chance to really push the Packers for the division, but last year at home, the Lions lost by 2 Touchdowns. The Lions are a playoff team, but they are not on the Packers level.
Lightly Salted Nuts said 06/02, 05:45 PM
Any team that believes they have a bye week in an opponent, regardless of the opponent, is coached by a fool. No way that McCarthy allows the Pack to look past the Manningless Colts.
This isn't about the Colts though. I would be foolish to pick against the Pack in that week; however, the week needs to be taken just as seriously as any other. So, their week against the Texans won't be a gimme either. Yes, they've lost Mario but I think last season, JJ Watt showed what they've got in him. I think he'll offer the Texans some versatility as well since he's a converted TE. Cushing should be at full speed as well so there will be plenty of pressure on ARod(g).
Against the GMen, I do expect the Pack to be ready. The GMen can't afford a let down and they're coming off the bye. The Pack, however, are coming off a tough game at Detroit and now travel to NY.
You're leaning loss the last week at MN. I assume you think they have the division by this point and are resting players. I expect the Pack to have a bye Wildcard weekend; McCarthy isn't giving his starters two weeks off. They may not play the whole game but they'll be playing.
7#bag _ Com said 06/04, 02:04 PM
I'm leaning loss because the vicks will be better at the end of the year than in the begging.
I fully expect the Lions and Bears (oh my) to threaten all year. But the problem is, the Packers are simply going to be overwhelming this season.
The "tough" game at Detroit isn't really going to have much bearing on the G-men. The Lions are not going to run the ball 48 times like the G-men will. The Giants also bring a different defense to the world.
The Texans could be good. I just don't see them competing with the Pack.
They will cover the 12.
Lightly Salted Nuts said 06/05, 08:05 AM
Frazier should have momentum in his 2nd full season however, I don't know if he's the guy to coach them to playoff contention. Fair (not good) QB in Ponder but no depth there (Rosenfels projected #2). Youth is on their side but it's still susceptible to a veteran team. Current roster only shows 7 players 30 or older (Allen, Rosenfels, Berger, Kluwe, Loeffler, Williams, and Winfield). I just cannot see them beating a Packers team that should really be feeling it as the prepare for the playoffs.
Detroit and Chicago both have homefield advantage in my projected losses for the Pack (you picked Chicago as well in your initial argument so not sure of your argument here). The Pack O line will be susceptible to a strong rush this season as they continue to identify the right chemistry there. And you're right about Detroit not running strong but it's their passing game that will affect the Pack, especially if Megatron has another season like 2011.
Giants do have a different defense. They are physical up front and deceptively challenging in the secondary. This is the time of year when Coughlin has that team firing on all cylinders.
I don't think fans have taken Houston seriously yet
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