- 06/05/2012, 08:46PM ET
Tyler Durden says: said 06/05, 08:46 PM
Who do the Bobcats takes at #2 in the NBA draft?
Only guideline is Anthony Davis is #1 and not an option for the TD.
P.S. I apologize if this is a played out TD, I've not even looked at this site in like a year.
*David Stern is walking to the podium with the #2 pick in hand*
With the #2 pick in the 2012 NBA draft, the Bobcats select Harrison Barnes out of the University of North Carolina.
Who you got?
Marlins Fan said 06/05, 10:00 PM
No worries; I don't think I've seen this TD yet so far this year.
Anyway, here's the scenario... David Stern walks to the podium, envelope in hand. When he opens his mouth to talk or whatever, Stern says:
"With the #2 pick in the 2012 NBA draft, the Bobcats select Thomas Robinson out of the University of Kansas".
In the interest of fairness I won't argue now since you didn't get a chance to defend your pick yet.
Tyler Durden says: said 06/05, 11:46 PM
When I look at the Bobcats roster, I can't help but to see that position wise that Small Forward is their biggest need to improve.
They have a couple more rotation players, but these guys would put their best lineup on the court.
Maggette is the one not like the other ones, he is older, injury prone as he missed over half the past season. I'm fairly confident in saying I'm sure he'd rather be a role player on a contender thea a supposed veteran leader of a young team, years from contending.
So, with defense minded C/PF, they need to add a young SF who can put points on the board and share the scoring load, and in my opinion Harrison Barnes is the best offensive SF in the draft. Barnes fills all their current needs.
In additon to filling their positional need, he is a homer pick for Jordan and can raise some revenue being that he is a UNC alum.
So why is a slightly under sized PF the pick you feel the Bobcats should make?
Marlins Fan said 06/06, 12:51 AM
I agree with you to an extent: small forward is definitely a position that the Bobcats could stand to upgrade. But I'm not sure that Barnes is going to be able to stick as a small forward in the NBA anyway. I have a feeling he's going to wind up playing more shooting guard than anything, because he can't create his own shot. He couldn't in college and he certainly won't be able to as a pro. His game is more Steph Curry than Dwayne Wade, if you know what I mean. If you don't, Barnes is more of a guy who needs his teammates to get him the ball in order to score. He's not gonna be as effective driving to the hoop or otherwise creating his own shot. Last season Barnes shot 8-30 when Kendall Marshall wasn't on the floor, proving that he can't create his own shot. IMO he's overrated, but whatever.
Also the Bobcats could use help at power forward. Tyrus Thomas has endless athleticism but he's not a game changer and Robinson would be a massive upgrade. Robinson has an NBA-ready body and an energizer bunny for a motor. He will work as hard as anybody, similar to Kawhi Leonard, another "undersized" player who made an immediate impact as a rookie. He's a relentless rebounder.
Tyler Durden says: said 06/06, 01:27 AM
I agree on Thomas. However, Biyombo in all honesty is under though listed as center on ESPN.com, is undersized for center and matches up better at PF I feel, so Thomas could come off the bench and you put the 19 year old Biyombo in the starting lineup.
At this time, neither have shown the knack for being a game changer, but we have to give Biyombo credit for being how raw he was in his first game to the improvement he made as the season went along. He needs playing time, it would be a shame to bury him on your roster when you have a hole at SF.
Barnes is a 6'8" SF who has a pretty good shot. You comparing him to guards is kinda off, as the biggest issue/flaw I see with his game is his ball handling ability. He will not be a guy to bring the ball up court, but in the league there are only a handful of players his size who do have that ability. He is a SF, not a PG. When any team loses their PG they struggle, as a PG is like a QB.
You draft Barnes as a sweet shooting SF, with size ability to guard most SF's in the league. And seeing how you feel that he needs a PG to be good, guess it's a good thing the Bobcats have 2 young viable options at PG incase one goes down.
Marlins Fan said 06/06, 01:45 AM
I didn't mean to necessarily compare Barnes to those guards as I meant to draw a comparison between the styles of play. Maybe Rashard Lewis and LeBron would've been a less confusing way to make the comparison, I don't know...
Anyhoo the point I'm trying to make is that Barnes isn't a classic wing player because he can't create his own shot. Ball handling skills are a concern, I agree, but I still think Barnes winds up playing shooting guard primarily, simply due to the limits of his offensive game. I guess in the right system he could be a small forward like Rashard Lewis or something but for Charlotte I don't think that's what they're going for. Any team that signs Maggette is looking for a slasher; someone who will get to the rim and create contact and earn free throws. Barnes just isn't that guy.
Robinson may or may not be undersized (reports vary, anywhere from 6-8 to 6-10) but regardless he's still a better option as a forward than Barnes. He is great around the hoop finishing and drawing fouls and he's about as good a rebounder as you're going to find, similar to Dejuan Blair in that regard. His size and athleticism will be a bonus in terms of defensive matchups.
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