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10. Nadal..
Unstoppable on clay..
Very very vulnerable on other surfaces..

+10

I've always said he was just a better verson of Guga...

Nadal is dominant on other surfaces too. He beat Federer at Wimbledon and usually makes the semi-final in the other slams.

I would have mentioned Tim Couch or J. Russ over Tebow. At least TT wasn't the # 1 overall pick.

Jason Kapono...Trajon Langdon was worse.

How aboput AI? Had he been willing to PRACTICE maybe he would have won a ring. Doubt it though, he was a lousy teammate.

Brandon Jacobs...NO, how about Ki Jana Carter?

Speaking of NBAers (current or former) how about Trajon Langdon? Sharp shooting CBB hoopster who couldn't throw the rock into Lake Erie if he was given three chances.

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Originally posted 10:46 PM ET  06.11 by W_A_M_U?

Speaking of NBAers (current or former) how about Trajon Langdon? Sharp shooting CBB hoopster who couldn't throw the rock into Lake Erie if he was given three chances.

D@MN LAG!

3. Adam Dunn..
Swing for the fences, and if you dont hit them, then you are still on top of the world!
Actually, you are not, you strike out..
Does anyone have a stranger home run to strike out ratio, than this bum!

Huh? Dunn had an all time awful year last year, but a one trick pony? He's 2nd in HR's, 3rd in RBI, has an on base % of .369, is tied for the most walks in the majors, and sees more pitches than anyone in the game. Offensively he does everything except hit for a high batting average...how is that a "one trick pony" exactly? I don't care if he hits a single, gets hit by a pitch, or draws a walk...getting on base is getting on base and Dunn does it quite well on top of the power numbers.

Consider what Paul Konerko has done this year and thank Adam Dunn for a big chunk of it. Between seeing several pitches before coming to bat and consistently having runners on base in front of him (meaning more RBI chances and more fastballs) Konerko is having an MVP type season.

Ichiro is often considered one of the best hitters of this generation, but Dunn is a "one trick pony"?

That just tells you how over rated batting average is.

Sure, Suzuki has a career .324 BA thanks to being a slap hitter with speed, but his career on base % is just .367. Adam Dunn is "only" a .243 career hitter, but HIS on base % .374. He actually gets on base more often than the "great hitter" in their careers. Thing is, Adam ALSO hits a **** more HR's and drives in a lot more. Even runs scored, where you would expect Suzuki to have a HUGE advantage hitting lead off with tons of speed...he only averages 11 more runs per 162 games than Dunn.

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Originally posted 11:41 PM ET  06.11 by C-C-C

Ichiro is often considered one of the best hitters of this generation, but Dunn is a "one trick pony"?That just tells you how over rated batting average is. Sure, Suzuki has a career .324 BA thanks to being a slap hitter with speed, but his career on base % is just .367. Adam Dunn is "only" a .243 career hitter, but HIS on base % .374. He actually gets on base more often than the "great hitter" in their careers. Thing is, Adam ALSO hits a **** more HR's and drives in a lot more. Even runs scored, where you would expect Suzuki to have a HUGE advantage hitting lead off with tons of speed...he only averages 11 more runs per 162 games than Dunn.

I like to look at RBI + runs scored to measure offensive productivity. For Dunn, it's 189 per 162; 160 for Ichiro.

David check this out...


Kobe: 16 years-1,722 steals (never hand a single season w/ 200+ steals)


Look at the all time NBA steals leaders and what Kobe has done so far is not impressive at all.

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Originally posted 11:48 PM ET  06.11 by williewilliejuan

I like to look at RBI + runs scored to measure offensive productivity. For Dunn, it's 189 per 162; 160 for Ichiro.

That's a good metric and illustrates just how over rated batting average is to offense.

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Originally posted 01:00 AM ET  06.12 by W_A_M_U?

David check this out...Kobe: 16 years-1,722 steals (never hand a single season w/ 200+ steals)Look at the all time NBA steals leaders and what Kobe has done so far is not impressive at all.

Great point

Compared to Cy Young. All your favorite pitchers are SHAT.

Kobe is 5th on the active list.

Dammit the lag is awful today.

Actually I thought Kobe was lower on the all time steals list than 16th.

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Originally posted 02:39 PM ET  06.12 by Bloggers Needed

Great pointCompared to Cy Young. All your favorite pitchers are SHAT.Kobe is 5th on the active list.

HA-HA-HA, what does Cy Young have to do with the NBA? So he's 5th on the active list, big deal. Where does he rank all time?

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Originally posted 03:02 PM ET  06.12 by W_A_M_U?

HA-HA-HA, what does Cy Young have to do with the NBA? So he's 5th on the active list, big deal. Where does he rank all time?

See my # 17 comment.

Due to changes in mechanics that have slowed his fastball, Aroldis Chapman has been shown to throw a devastating slider in 0-2 counts very often, rather than strictly the fastball, as the left insinuates. He also has a curve and a cutter, so I guess he's not a "one-trick-pony" at all.