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Should we fault LeBron for leaving Cleveland?
Aminkoff31 said 06/13, 09:26 PM
NO.
As I asked in a previous throwdown, How many of you have ever been to Cleveland? A pretty crappy place to call home, am I right? If you were given the choice to live in Cleveland, New York, LA or Miami, would you even put Cleveland in your top 3?
The man realized that he was not going to win a championship in Cleveland not with guys like Mo Williams, Daniel Gibson and Anderson Varejao(spelling) in his starting lineup. He knew he needed help and was not ashamed to go to Miami and play under Dwayne Wade.
I am not trying to say that it would not have hurt him to be a little bit less obnoxious when he left Cleveland, but really can any of us fault him for leaving Cleveland?
PCH-LEH GO HEAT! said 06/14, 12:37 AM
who else would you fault?
lmao
bahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaa
Lebron's one of my favorite players. But, that whole "decision" cameo ruined him.
I think he lost to the Mavericks last year because he was having panic attacks. lol
Aminkoff31 said 06/14, 09:40 PM
So since you seem to not have any interest in arguing this topic I will reaffirm my points. Cleveland is one of the least popular locations in the United States. Why should LeBron stay there when he could go almost anywhere?
Yea Panic Attacks, real funny, lets joke about them, and throw a few more cliche LeBron folds under pressure jokes. Here is one:
Don't ask LeBron for change for a dollar he doesn't have a fourth quarter!
See what I did there he only played the first 3 quarters of last years finals.
I agree the Decision cameo was a mistake and that hurt his image however my question is can we fault him for leaving Cleveland, not how he did it.
PCH-LEH GO HEAT! said 06/15, 01:13 AM
lebron had a contract waiting with Dan "the man" Snyder.
the decision was a "choice", Lebron dipped out and basically gave up.. How can you put any justice to this?
remember the Celtics playoffs? When the Cavs had Shaq diesel? lmao
Aminkoff31 said 06/16, 01:39 PM
You still don't really present any arguments.
Yes the decision was his fault and it was a mistake. And I am not too sure what your point about Shaq is. If it is that LeBron had a hall of fame player on his squad then you are right, however Shaq was way past his prime and did not really contribute much other than his name and stardom.
LeBron was smart enough to realize he would not get the desired results in Cleveland, so he chose to go to Miami, be with his friends and enlist their assistance in winning. Whether it was a smart decision, only time will tell.
But if you were given the chance to go play professional ball in any other city but Cleveland would you pick Cleveland?
I sure wouldn't and I bet a majority of Americans would not either.
None of us have the right to be mad at LeBron for leaving Cleveland unless we live in Cleveland. It was personal the way that he left, and if I lived in Cleveland I would be pissed too. But most of us do not leave in Cleveland and he did not personally insult us.
So let's let this go, and enjoy his greatness, as when you look past the baggage, he is truly sensational to watch and root for.
PCH-LEH GO HEAT! said 06/22, 05:29 PM
Well, Lebron just won his first title.
I know the clevelanders are might infuriated.
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Aminkoff31
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If I were given the choice of those cities, I'd kill myself.
Only big city that would be appealing to me would be Vegas.
Outlaw...
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but really can any of us fault him for leaving Cleveland?
Absolutely. Not only for "the decision" fiasco, but he TOLD THE FANS his only goal was to bring a title to Cleveland and he wasn't going to give up until he did. That statement was made a few months before he bolted for South Beach. So yeah, after promising the fans he'd be around to chase a title, then pull the publicity stunt on ESPN to rub it in their faces that he was lying to them, is absolutely, positively, his "fault".
Nobody blames him for leaving. They blame him for HOW he left.
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Vegas isn't a "big city". It's smaller than Nashville, which nobody would confuse with NY or LA.
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Cleveland isn't a bad place at all to live. Cleveland has some very nice parts of the city, especially around the stadium and the Rock N Roll HOF. That is a terrible argument to make.
As for your assumption that he wasn't going to win in Cleveland, what makes you think he has a better shot in Miami? I don't think Cleveland roster was any worst than Miami's roster is now. Dwayne Wade (who I admit I really dislike) is overrated at this point (some say he is injured, I say he is overrated as a player). Bosh, when healthy, is really just an above average player on this Heat team (the Heat would be light years better with a tough post player who could defend vs. Bosh) and what else? The Heat, outside of LeBron, are not a good team. LeBron is carrying this team, same as he did in Cleveland. Even if he wins this year, I don't buy the argument that he couldn't win in Cleveland.
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It's not that Lebron left Cleveland, it's how he went about everything. 31, have you ever been to Cleveland?
Wamu
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"was not ashamed to go to Miami and play under Dwayne Wade."
This statement is just absurd.
Wamu
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How is being a free agent and signing with a team you want to play with a "fault"?
Gruden
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It's not the fact the Bron-Bron left Cleveland, it's the manner in which he went about everything.
Wamu
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Concur;
Can't fault him for leaving - it's what the market was able to bare - pure and simple. What I can fault is the circus atmosphere of HOW he left.
Lex-LOU-thor
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Exactly. If he didn't want to make a fool out of Gilbert, the organization and Cavs fans he would have manned up and just left rather then delaying his "Decision". Now I'm not saying an FA's would have went to Cleveland but had Bron-Bron manned up it would have left the Cavs under the salary cap and they could have at least tried to go after a mid tier FA.
Wamu
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You mean the hype, the television show dedicated to his decision, the collection of three superstars where he was headed...you know...the show business part of the entertainment business he's in? Shaq made movies and CDs. Michael Jordan sells underwear. Rodman got all tatted up. Magic got AIDS. Kobe raped women in hotel rooms. They all do what they need to do to get their name out there.
Gruden
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Funny - everything you listed is outside the Business of the NBA. LeBron's wasn't.
Lex-LOU-thor
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I think Bron-Bron figured that he would never win a title in Cleveland. And like I have said before Gilbert never said NO to lebron about anything. Wasn't it Bron-Bron that wanted Jamison, Mo Williams, D. West and so on in Cleveland? Doubt it was Danny Ferry that hand picked that awful collection of hoopsters. With the exception of Jamison. He was a good player for a while.
Wamu
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And, completely WRONG. Wade isn't Miami's coach, unles he's inferring....OMG!
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That was just a really odd statement. D. Wade is not the same player from a couple of years ago. Maybe it's injury or maybe it p*sses him off he's not "The Man" anymore in Miami?
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