- 06/17/2012, 01:07PM ET
HighwayCrossingFrog said 06/17, 01:07 PM
1. Utah jazz, stockton, malone hornacek and ostertag:)
2. Andy murray
3. Van persie, arsenal dutch soccer
4. Pats in 07+11
5. Blue jays, past 15 years
6. Kurt warner for most of his career
7. Reggie miller
8. Cleveland indians late 90s
9. Cam newton
10. Soon to be andrew luck
J-Business said 06/17, 04:16 PM
I'll keep numbers 1, 2, 3, 6, 8
Wilt Chamberlin - 60's
All the talent in the world and one of the greatest players ever but had to go up against an all time great Boston Celtics team and an all time great coach with Red
Started off great. Young and up and coming great fighter. Ran into an up and "coming" actress in Robin Givens. At the same time, an up and coming boxing promoter in Don King. Maybe he could have survived one of them but not both at the same time
Boise State - 2000's
Great teams but never got the respect they deserved. Always had the label of being a mid major, but never really got the chance to play for the National Title or a BCS tournament. If the NCAA changes the rules, their former players will have a lot of what ifs
Great team, that played great team ball. Too bad they had to go up against Shaq and Kobe and some would say the refs
Negro League of baseball
Some of the greatest players ever in baseball were barred from playing amongst their peers because of race.
I would even say that Major League baseball also lost out because they never got a chance to see those guys up close
HighwayCrossingFrog said 06/18, 09:51 AM
Pats in 07+11..
run into the one team, thats red hot, that presents awful match up problems..
if we play 07 packers and 11 niners..
then we are talkin about 5 rings for brady..
i know we didnt really need to win those games..
bradys legacy is already in tact..
how can you be the best ever, if the lousy gmen have your number?
over the past 15years, they have consistently been over .500..
but in the nightmare AL EAST, they should not have bothered trying..
it must be an empty feeling for the fans..
yankees, red sox and now rays, are either too good,
out finance canada..
Reggie miller was too talented, not to win a ring..
jordan broke his heart alot..
the pacers as a team were just not very good..
he could have and should have bolted to chicago..
he would have been the perfect compliment to jordan..
heck, he could have landed gigs at lakers and spurs, and got a ring..
but he was loyal and went down with the ship..
Luck and newton,
great players awful teams..
can you imagine newton as a gmen?
they go from 9 wins, to 13Ws!
J-Business said 06/18, 02:31 PM
I totally disagree about the Patriots. They were in the right place and right time.
They just didn't play a great game. Also, towards the end of their undefeated season, a number of teams were exposing their vulnerabilities
The Giants went in with a game plan and won
The Blue Jays?
They can be considered the 3rd to 4th best team in the AL East in the past 15 yrs.
Maybe if they were always 2nd fighting against the Yankees
But no, it was against the Yankees and the Red Sox and if Tampa Bay managed to break thru, the Blue Jays should have also
Reggie Miller was good but not great. His teams were good but not great. Honestly, I don't even consider them to be the Bulls greatest threats during Jordan's era
The Miami Heat were good. The Knicks were there.
If Charlotte had kept Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson together, they could have unseated the Bulls
Same goes for Orlando with Shaq and Penny Hardaway
Luck and Newton?
The majority of great players start off on awful teams
That's why they're the number 1 draft pick
The reason why they go on to become great is because they turn awful teams into good teams
HighwayCrossingFrog said 06/18, 05:42 PM
Mike tyson had a fantastic career..
put him in the era of ali, frasier, foreman and norton..
and then tyson gets his bootie kicked on a consistent basis..
tyson was lucky..
when he became youngest heavyweight, up until his arrest,
the boxing field was awfully weak..
he will go down as the hardest puncher ever..
thats good enough for me..
in his prime, lewis and holyfield would give him probs,
cause they were a good 8inches taller and could keep him at bay with vicious jabs..
when the best guy on your team is chris webber,
you will never be destined for great things..
the kings were a cute team..
but i"d rather have miller time..
miller will be remembered forever as a new york killer, pretty cool..
will be psynenomous for F ing up.. Ha ha..
beat up on a bunch of dwayne dweeblies..
vince young would have licked his chops, as would many REAL college stars..
it would be like that little tough guy at the bar,
telling everyone he could beat up the giant new zealand rugby player with hammer sized hands..
J-Business said 06/19, 02:40 AM
Boise State has had 2 undefeated seasons in the past 10 yrs
In 2006 they went 13-0, went to the Fiesta Bowl and beat Oklahoma
In 2009, they went 14-0 and beat TCU
In their best seasons ever, they beat two big conference teams and this still wasn't enough to win the BCS
If they ever institute the tournament, you better believe their former players will be thinking about what would have happened
Chris Webber and Sacramento were a better team than the Pacers. They also played in a much better conference at a time when the West was very strong
Miller might have been a New York killer but that was a rivalry between him and the city
It's not as if they were playing to go to the Finals
It was just a good rivalry with both teams playing hard
Jordan and the Bulls were far ahead of them and it was nothing compared to the Lakers vs Kings rivalry
Many people will argue that the Kings actually were better and if not for the refs, the Kings would have won
Mike Tyson was a great fighter and before Don King and Givens, he had great corner men and a good team looking after him
Put him around sharks and things went left
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