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Let them in
Outlaw... said 06/19, 08:01 PM
Should the PED users of MLB's steroid era be allowed into the HOF?
I say yes.
This topic has been done 1000 times, but I'm very bored, one more time won't hurt.
But PED use in baseball was around a long time before steroids and HGH came around. Mike Schmidt, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, etc were using amphetamines. Babe Ruth took testosterone injections and Pud Galvin drank monkey testosterone, all were the best PED available at the time, yet every player mentioned is in the HOF. I really don't see the difference here.
Then you have the fact that every player that played in the 90s is a suspect. You can't leave an entire era out of the HOF, if you do some innocent bystanders will get left out, and I'm sick of hearing about players not getting votes because of suspicion. End all of the arguments and just let them in.
It's not the Hall of Good Role Models, it's the Hall of Fame.
Hate to tell you, but without the PED home run surge of the 90's and early 2000s, baseball would have been a dying sport after the strike. Saving the sport is pretty fame worthy if you ask me.
williewilliejuan said 06/19, 11:14 PM
Known PED users should not be voted into the HOF.
The argument that players like Schmidt, Aaron and Mays took greenies is hardly relevant to this discussion. Greenies never made a player bulk up like a human comic book character. Greenies didn't make people hit 70+ HR in a season or add MPH to a pitcher's fastball. Greenies didn't give players anything that players don't get today from Red Bull or 5 Hour Energy Drinks. They're not the same thing.
More than any other sport, baseball is a game that values its history. It values its records, like Maris' 61 HR in 1961 or Aaron's 755 career HR. PED users sought to steal their way into those record books with chemically-induced shortcuts. They disrespected the game, its history and every player who came to the ballpark clean each day.
It's a sad day in America when we start making statements that amount to an acceptance of cheating because it was widespread. There have to be standards for the records of the game to mean anything. There have to be standards to say which players we will celebrate in the Hall of Fame and which ones we won't.
PED users damaged (not saved) the great game of baseball and should not be honored.
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I'll be your huckleberry.
williewilliejuan
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Same.
Mondo Jay
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Post the next argument tomorrow afternoon/evening. Gonna take the pontoon out in the AM, better hit the hay.
Outlaw...
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Is this a tourney TD? Just asking, because I remember wwj being all over my last TD with MF regarding this issue, which he sided against me and my stance against PED users.
DonCorleone
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If this is a tourney TD, then carry on, since I know at times we're forced to take a side against our beliefs.
DonCorleone
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so where does this leave Clemens, court found him not guilty even if it does appear to have been a travesty of justice? should he get in because officially he didn't do it? or does the committee wag their collective fingers and deny him access to their hallowed hall?
displacedtexan
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I am shocked, shocked I say at this revelation!
<shakes head slowly in disappointment>
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That's gross.
Schad - Notorious…
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I guess Outlaw is getting ahead of the curve for that inevitable day when Chipper is found out to be a steroid using, HgH loving freak.
Not that I can blame him.....
<pulls branches over trap, plays Dixie in the background and patiently waits....>
Schad - Notorious…
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Also, steroids have been around a lot longer than the 90's and 2000's, Canseco was juicing in the 80's along with a lot of other players.
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