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  • 07/07/2012, 09:34PM ET

DJ asked for it II

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What AFC team that made the playoffs last year will miss it this year?

I will take the Broncos

Manning, if even 80% is an upgrade at QB, but who does he throw to? Denver did little in the offseason to help, and the AFC West got better, as did several other teams- there will be no wildcard out for the Man-ites


It's very tough to see any of the AFC teams missing the playoffs, but since you challenged me and I rarely back away from a challenge....I will take the Baltimore Ravens.

-Terrell Suggs is out for the season (or at least most of the season) after tearing his Achilles tendon earlier this year.

-Ray Lewis is 37 and can't keep playing like he is a decade younger. At some point, he starts to show signs of his age and this season he will have a lot more responsibility with Suggs being injured.

"Manning, if even 80% is an upgrade at QB, but who does he throw to?"

Demaryius Thomas is a phenomenal talent. His stats last year (32 catches for 551 yards, 17.2ypc and 4 TD's) are more a product of Tim Tebow's porous passing ability. Not an indication of Thomas' talent. Thomas will benefit the most from Manning coming to Denver.

Eric Decker is a WR that reminds me a lot of Ed McCaffrey. 8 of his 44 receptions last year went for TD's and that number should also rise with Manning throwing hm the ball as well.

Brandon Stokley played with Manning in Indianapolis and will be a solid 3rd WR when they want to go with 3 WR's.


Lookit the game tape!!!

The ravens play the AFC West- that's 4 wins add Cleveland and Washington and I could be the third WR and they have 7 wins.

Suggs is a big hit- but they are not going to drop from 3rd to 20, where th Broncos hang out. They have Upshaw to help fill Suggs production.

This team has had back to back 12 win seasons, and that's WITH Bolden doing crap. Keep in mind they also went undefeated at home- where they get NE, Dallas and the Giants. A dozen wins is easily in reach, esp with Farrior and Ward gone- (they have to go to Dallas, NyG and the Black Hole.)

This brings me to the biggest question of the Broncos- Manning.

You know the guy with duct tape holding the stiches on his neck together

You excited about that O-line? Kuper is going to be slower, Beadles isn't great and let's just say I'm glad Franklin isn't watching Newtons blind side.

Did I mention the Broncos don't face a team with a losing record from last year until WEEK 10- and that's the PANTHERS?


The Ravens are getting old. Suggs isn't the only question about their defense. Lewis' body is starting to get beat up. He sustained a foot injury last season. He played in just 12 games.

Cincinnati had an excellent draft and are only going to get better. Even if Andy Dalton's numbers aren't as good this season. They added a solid RB in Dan Herron and a very promising TE in Orson Charles. They are giving Dalton more options on offense.

The Bengals defense added Dre Kirkpatrick at CB and DT Devon Still. This team isn't the same old sad sack Bengals team of the middle 1990's and early 2000's.

The Bengals are going to make a push at winning the AFC North. It will come down to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

Baltimore a team that's time might have passed.

The big question is if Manning can stay healthy. Sure, NFL contracts aren't fully guaranteed, but I can't believe they would have signed off on bringing him in if their doctors hadn't looked at him.

I don't think he will be the same old Manning, but they don't need him to be. If he is 75% of the old Peyton, he is a huge upgrade over Tebow.

James Farrior? He plays for the Steelers!!!!


"The Bengals are going to make a push at winning the AFC North. It will come down to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati."

You got the Ravens coming in THIRD?

You know Joe Flacco is playing right? You do understand that Ray Rice is alive?

You do realize the BENGALS are the team in Cincy, the Eagles or Texans didn't move there this weekend.

Ask Baltimore if they will trade Dalton and Herron for RICE AND FLACCO


"The big question is if Manning can stay healthy. Sure, NFL contracts aren't fully guaranteed, but I can't believe they would have signed off on bringing him in if their doctors hadn't looked at him. "

HUGE Question mark. The Neck isn't a knee, you can't tape it and let him play like Marino or Namath. You can't put a pad on it. There isn't THING ONE you can do to protect it, other than get 15 yards everytime a player breathes in his general direction.

And if he goes down?

Curtis Painter isn't coming through that door.

That running game is going down hill. That passing game is going to be better, but Dallas Clark isn't there.

KC is the pick.


"You know Joe Flacco is playing right? You do understand that Ray Rice is alive?"

Yes, I understand that.

You understand Flacco isn't a Pro Bowl QB, right? He was drafted in 2008 as a project and he hasn't shown much improvement. Last year he had his worst completion % (57.6%) in his 4th season.

225ypg, 6.7ypa, 20 TD's, 12 INT.

They need to decide if he is the future. He is 44-20 as a starter, but that's more a product of him having an excellent defense and a very good RB in Ray Rice than him winning games for the Ravens.

"You do realize the BENGALS are the team in Cincy, the Eagles or Texans didn't move there this weekend."



Denver's defense has Elvis Dumervil and Von Miller. These are 2 talented players that when healthy will impact this defense. In a big way. Manning doesn't have the greatest playoff record, but he has a Super Bowl ring and he had some bad defense's in Indianapolis.

They also drafted Ronnie Hillman to play RB and take some pressure off Willis McGahee. Manning will have a running game that was 1st in the NFL last year.

July 8, 2012  12:35 AM ET

Hello?

July 8, 2012  11:20 AM ET

I think people are going to be amazed how much better those Broncos receivers look this year

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July 8, 2012  02:43 PM ET
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I think people are going to be amazed how much better those Broncos receivers look this year

Well yeah, they now have a real QB.

July 8, 2012  02:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I think people are going to be amazed how much better those Broncos receivers look this year

Well yeah, they now have a real QB.

July 8, 2012  02:44 PM ET

DDDDDDAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNN LAG.


Thank you FN for never fixing the lag problem here.

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July 8, 2012  04:55 PM ET
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WAMU,From what i think is,NOBODY, that doesn't play for a season,is gonna have problems adjusting,with whatever his team he's thrown his hat into.Peyton Manning has already made the HOF,I wish him well,and mostly that his health will not be an issue.The Broncos Got Him,cuz,He's a 'Winner',I hope it works out.

I think Manning will be fine. He's more machine now than man. My bad there, I thought we were talking about Darth Vader there for a second(ha-ha).

July 8, 2012  04:56 PM ET
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Bingo!!!

YAHTZEE!!!

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July 8, 2012  10:03 PM ET

I think the Ray Lewis argument is complete garbage DJ, that is all...

July 9, 2012  01:38 AM ET

"Manning, if even 80% is an upgrade at QB, but who does he throw to? Denver did little in the offseason to help, and the AFC West got better, as did several other teams- there will be no wildcard out for the Man-ites"

I just love how the Tebow critics are hedging their bets now that he's gone and lowering the expectations for the Broncos. Come on, if Tebow is as bad as you insist and was able to get the Broncos to the second-round of the playoffs, then Denver should be a lock for the Super Bowl with Manning at the helm.

The truth is, the Broncos were 7-24 in their previous 31 game before Tebow took over as Denver's starting qb and were 8-5 with a playoff victory over the Steelers, afterwards. BTW, Tebow threw for over 300 yard and 2 TDs, ran for a TD and set a Broncos postseason passer rating record in that playoff win over the NFL's top-rated pass defense--but we all know that he can't throw the football.

It's simple--do the math--the horrendous Broncos hadn't sniffed the playoffs in years but suddenly saw their fortunes change when Tebow took over as the starting qb. I can already hear the indignant responses that it was all merely a coincidence or that Denver's 20th ranked defense that gave up 40 or more points an NFL-leading 5 times was actually responsible for all of those fourth-quarter comeback victories. At any rate, I can't wait for the excuses to start flowing if the Broncos's season goes south as I suspect, beginning with the opener against the vengeance-minded Steelers.

July 9, 2012  01:49 AM ET
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I think people are going to be amazed how much better those Broncos receivers look this year

Their stats should improve--unlike Tebow, Fox and McCoy won't restrict Manning to mostly throwing on only third-and-long situations until late in the fourth quarter.

 
July 9, 2012  01:55 AM ET
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The Ravens?Bold pick.

ROMO, NFL MVP 2012-13 bolder pick.

I project the Ravens going to the playoffs again and the Broncos losing out to the Chiefs.

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