- 07/07/2012, 09:34PM ET
7#bag _ Com said 07/07, 09:34 PM
What AFC team that made the playoffs last year will miss it this year?
I will take the Broncos
Manning, if even 80% is an upgrade at QB, but who does he throw to? Denver did little in the offseason to help, and the AFC West got better, as did several other teams- there will be no wildcard out for the Man-ites
DJRoxalot said 07/08, 03:46 PM
It's very tough to see any of the AFC teams missing the playoffs, but since you challenged me and I rarely back away from a challenge....I will take the Baltimore Ravens.
-Terrell Suggs is out for the season (or at least most of the season) after tearing his Achilles tendon earlier this year.
-Ray Lewis is 37 and can't keep playing like he is a decade younger. At some point, he starts to show signs of his age and this season he will have a lot more responsibility with Suggs being injured.
"Manning, if even 80% is an upgrade at QB, but who does he throw to?"
Demaryius Thomas is a phenomenal talent. His stats last year (32 catches for 551 yards, 17.2ypc and 4 TD's) are more a product of Tim Tebow's porous passing ability. Not an indication of Thomas' talent. Thomas will benefit the most from Manning coming to Denver.
Eric Decker is a WR that reminds me a lot of Ed McCaffrey. 8 of his 44 receptions last year went for TD's and that number should also rise with Manning throwing hm the ball as well.
Brandon Stokley played with Manning in Indianapolis and will be a solid 3rd WR when they want to go with 3 WR's.
7#bag _ Com said 07/09, 10:50 AM
Lookit the game tape!!!
The ravens play the AFC West- that's 4 wins add Cleveland and Washington and I could be the third WR and they have 7 wins.
Suggs is a big hit- but they are not going to drop from 3rd to 20, where th Broncos hang out. They have Upshaw to help fill Suggs production.
This team has had back to back 12 win seasons, and that's WITH Bolden doing crap. Keep in mind they also went undefeated at home- where they get NE, Dallas and the Giants. A dozen wins is easily in reach, esp with Farrior and Ward gone- (they have to go to Dallas, NyG and the Black Hole.)
This brings me to the biggest question of the Broncos- Manning.
You know the guy with duct tape holding the stiches on his neck together
You excited about that O-line? Kuper is going to be slower, Beadles isn't great and let's just say I'm glad Franklin isn't watching Newtons blind side.
Did I mention the Broncos don't face a team with a losing record from last year until WEEK 10- and that's the PANTHERS?
DJRoxalot said 07/09, 03:43 PM
The Ravens are getting old. Suggs isn't the only question about their defense. Lewis' body is starting to get beat up. He sustained a foot injury last season. He played in just 12 games.
Cincinnati had an excellent draft and are only going to get better. Even if Andy Dalton's numbers aren't as good this season. They added a solid RB in Dan Herron and a very promising TE in Orson Charles. They are giving Dalton more options on offense.
The Bengals defense added Dre Kirkpatrick at CB and DT Devon Still. This team isn't the same old sad sack Bengals team of the middle 1990's and early 2000's.
The Bengals are going to make a push at winning the AFC North. It will come down to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.
Baltimore a team that's time might have passed.
The big question is if Manning can stay healthy. Sure, NFL contracts aren't fully guaranteed, but I can't believe they would have signed off on bringing him in if their doctors hadn't looked at him.
I don't think he will be the same old Manning, but they don't need him to be. If he is 75% of the old Peyton, he is a huge upgrade over Tebow.
James Farrior? He plays for the Steelers!!!!
7#bag _ Com said 07/10, 02:06 PM
"The Bengals are going to make a push at winning the AFC North. It will come down to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati."
You got the Ravens coming in THIRD?
You know Joe Flacco is playing right? You do understand that Ray Rice is alive?
You do realize the BENGALS are the team in Cincy, the Eagles or Texans didn't move there this weekend.
Ask Baltimore if they will trade Dalton and Herron for RICE AND FLACCO
"The big question is if Manning can stay healthy. Sure, NFL contracts aren't fully guaranteed, but I can't believe they would have signed off on bringing him in if their doctors hadn't looked at him. "
HUGE Question mark. The Neck isn't a knee, you can't tape it and let him play like Marino or Namath. You can't put a pad on it. There isn't THING ONE you can do to protect it, other than get 15 yards everytime a player breathes in his general direction.
And if he goes down?
Curtis Painter isn't coming through that door.
That running game is going down hill. That passing game is going to be better, but Dallas Clark isn't there.
KC is the pick.
DJRoxalot said 07/10, 03:12 PM
"You know Joe Flacco is playing right? You do understand that Ray Rice is alive?"
Yes, I understand that.
You understand Flacco isn't a Pro Bowl QB, right? He was drafted in 2008 as a project and he hasn't shown much improvement. Last year he had his worst completion % (57.6%) in his 4th season.
225ypg, 6.7ypa, 20 TD's, 12 INT.
They need to decide if he is the future. He is 44-20 as a starter, but that's more a product of him having an excellent defense and a very good RB in Ray Rice than him winning games for the Ravens.
"You do realize the BENGALS are the team in Cincy, the Eagles or Texans didn't move there this weekend."
Denver's defense has Elvis Dumervil and Von Miller. These are 2 talented players that when healthy will impact this defense. In a big way. Manning doesn't have the greatest playoff record, but he has a Super Bowl ring and he had some bad defense's in Indianapolis.
They also drafted Ronnie Hillman to play RB and take some pressure off Willis McGahee. Manning will have a running game that was 1st in the NFL last year.
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