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  • 07/13/2012, 03:57PM ET

What should be done with PSU football program?

BuckyBadger. (16-5-4) vs Frank Pentangeli (138-393-25)
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In light of recent reports we have learned what many of us had expected. That Jerry Sandusky's crimes where covered up by Joe Paterno and others at the Penn State University. As a huge fan of college football and a person who respected JoePa this is a very depressing topic. Sandusky is being dealt with by the law and others have been disgraced but the question remains should their be further punishment on the football program? If so what should it be?

For the TD you can argue nothing or something different from what I am proposing.

As far as the "football" operations of the football program I think it should be left alone. Don't shut them down, don't take away scholarships or eligibility of bowl games. Who does that punish? Just people who had nothing to do with these crimes. Does it help the victims in anyway? Not that I can see.

What should happen is their should be a sanction on all profits the football team earns for the next decade. They should have to give a % to the victims and pay for any treatment they might need to help them get past this. Further they should also have to give a % to a foundation that helps people who have gone through something similar.


Are you freakin ****? Really?

Ok, an employee of this program was caught sodomizing a young boy in their showers and their reaction was nothing short of the old Catholic Church motto, "How do we keep people from finding this out"?

This is a State University receiving TAX Dollars for funding. This entire University should be shut down as should the entire Catholic Church in the US. How are they linked? "paternO"

If you write them a tuition check you support boy rape. If you pay State Taxes in Pennsylvania you have funded boy rape. If you have bought a ticket to a Penn State game you have contributed funds towards boy rape and its continuous cover up.


Here is your typical selfish response of where you want your satisfaction but nowhere do you consider the victims. It might sound like your being the tough guy but you're basically just punishing people who had nothing to do with this.

First let me explain one of my best friends was a victim of this same crime and I also have a friend who works as a counselor for this. The victims will always have self esteem issues. Doing what you propose will make them only feel worse because innocent people will be punished and they will start to feel responsible. Hard for a regular person to understand but it is how they think. All the victims get in your proposal is the feeling that they took down a University but as long as you feel better I guess it is OK, right?

What happened was a horrific crime and all those involved directly or in the cover need to be punished and will be. To say an Engineer or History major who may or may not have liked football supported boy rape is pure hyperbole.

My proposal gives the victims a chance to start to feel self worth and gives funding to prevent future crimes. It has the victims in mind and not a sense of personal vengeance.


If you paid tuition at Penn State you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you bought a football ticket you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you watched Penn St on TV you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you protested when Paterno was fired you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you paid ties to a Catholic Church you knowingly had something to do with it. If you support Penn St today in any way, shape, or form you are supporting child rape.

You have to bring the hammer down to prevent future victims.

For example, think of how many family secrets exist in this world about what uncle Johnny or Papa Johnson did? Family Secrets. If you are keeping the secret you are an enabler leading to future victims.

Penn State should be shut down. Forever.


You are connecting dots that don't exist. The Penn State football program didn't draw funds from the engineer getting his education. Football programs like that pay their own bills. PSU is a large school with lots of diversity. Plenty of professors and students don't even like football. Just because you go to school there doesn't mean you supported the football program. Just like I like plenty about our country but there are things I don't support. It isn't as black and white as you say.

You still have shown no concern for the victims or preventing future crimes. Your idea that whipping out a University will stop the low life in your town from raping a child is absurd. Again connecting dots that aren't there. What does prevent these kind of crimes is having safe places these victims can go to and spread awareness to the public to be able to spot it which is exactly the sort of thing Penn State should be doing, either forced or not.

You just want to shut down the University and think it will solve the problem but it only punishes people who had nothing to do with it. It will only make the victims feel worse and nothing gets solved.


Have you ever bought season tickets to a major NCAA Football Program? You make a large donation to the Athletic Dept on top of the face value. You know who buys season tickets? Engineers that graduated from there. Have you ever bought a ticket to a Football game? Its relatively expensive and you know who buys them? Students and their friends and families.

You are putting this on the Football Program. That isnt the Case. There is a larger entity. The Football Program is part of the ENTIRE UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE BOARDED UP.

There is nothing anyone can do to help the victims and the UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN allowed it to go in indefinately. If he hadnt got caught hed still be doing it and the UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN would still know about it.

July 13, 2012  04:07 PM ET

Interesting suggestion. I disagree, but won't have time this weekend to argue it.

July 13, 2012  04:42 PM ET

I see where your coming from but that would never happen

July 13, 2012  04:55 PM ET
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I see where your coming from but that would never happen

I agree, as soon as money going to the public is announced, there will be hundreds of addtional cases across the nation pop to the surface whether they are true or not.

Sounds good on the onset, but it is never a good idea to throw money in the air.

July 13, 2012  04:56 PM ET

And, I do understand that any sanctions, forfeitures, bans, etc. only hurts those left behind, but that is the way it has always been. The guilty are gone.

July 13, 2012  06:24 PM ET
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And, I do understand that any sanctions, forfeitures, bans, etc. only hurts those left behind, but that is the way it has always been. The guilty are gone.

Saying "that is the way it has always been" is the worse excuse in history to continue to do something that doesn't make sense. The nature of this crime doesn't really have anything to do with football.

July 13, 2012  06:26 PM ET
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I agree, as soon as money going to the public is announced, there will be hundreds of addtional cases across the nation pop to the surface whether they are true or not. Sounds good on the onset, but it is never a good idea to throw money in the air.

The crimes would still have to be proven. Their always money to go after rich people for things like this in civil trial. You don't not do what is right just because you are afraid someone will try to take advantage of it later. You hope that the justice system will find the truth.

July 13, 2012  07:21 PM ET
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The crimes would still have to be proven. Their always money to go after rich people for things like this in civil trial. You don't not do what is right just because you are afraid someone will try to take advantage of it later. You hope that the justice system will find the truth.

The justice system can award damages as well.

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July 13, 2012  07:30 PM ET
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Here's a radical idea. It's been said that JoePa had known about Sandusky's sick mind since about '98, right? Instead of killing the current PSU pigskin program how about stripping JoePa of all W's since the start '99 season? Since he found it more important to protect himself and his program rather than doing the right thing. And again, this is only a radical idea.

What does that accomplish?

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July 13, 2012  07:35 PM ET
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That would be better than punishing the current PSU pigskin program that had nothing to do with that sick crime.

Vacating victories is meaningless, particularly sine the only person they mean something to is dead. You might as well say we're not punishing them at all.

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July 13, 2012  08:11 PM ET
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So you are suggesting to punish the current players at PSU? If so I don't agree with you. Also does the NCAA really want JoePa as the all time winningest coach? His cover-up for his own selfish reason is/was disturbing to say the least. I had the utmost respect for JoePa until this stuff came out, he fooled everyone. he put his own legacy ahead of the crimes committed against those kids. Take JoePas name down on everything in Happy Valley and strip him of those W's from '99 on I say.

Pretending he didn't win the games isn't going to change anything. The games still happened. Don't punish the current players; punish the school. Give current players the opportunity to transfer to any school without having to sit out. Then shut down the program for 3-5 years. That would actually cause schools to think twice about covering up issues. Your proposal only punishes Paterno, who wasn't the only one involved and is currently dead.

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July 13, 2012  08:30 PM ET

This is a criminal case, the NCAA has NO jurisdiction. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of public lynchings of child molesters--half my family doesn't speak to me after I said it when it came out a family member of mine did this crap--but this is a legal matter and the NCAA has no authority to punish the school for it. If you have an issue, start writing the people that do have authority, remember this is a public school and has elected officials over it. So take down the statue of Paterno, push for the death penalty in your state for child molesters and don't demand an body that has no authority take punitive action.

July 13, 2012  08:45 PM ET
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It sounds to me like you'd like the Death Penalty thrown at PSU. Killing the football program would only hurt other sports at PSU. Like many big time programs football helps to fund several smaller athletic activities. Why should anyone else there suffer for JoePa's single minded selfishness?

Because it wasn't just Paterno. It was the administration. You can't just pin it all on the dead guy and move on.

July 13, 2012  11:32 PM ET
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This is a criminal case, the NCAA has NO jurisdiction. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of public lynchings of child molesters--half my family doesn't speak to me after I said it when it came out a family member of mine did this crap--but this is a legal matter and the NCAA has no authority to punish the school for it. If you have an issue, start writing the people that do have authority, remember this is a public school and has elected officials over it. So take down the statue of Paterno, push for the death penalty in your state for child molesters and don't demand an body that has no authority take punitive action.

I agree this is a criminal case and doesn't have jurisdiction on the football program but the University is a state school. The school is part of the crime and should have to pay a penalty to society for its cover up.

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