- 07/13/2012, 03:57PM ET
BuckyBadger. said 07/13, 03:57 PM
In light of recent reports we have learned what many of us had expected. That Jerry Sandusky's crimes where covered up by Joe Paterno and others at the Penn State University. As a huge fan of college football and a person who respected JoePa this is a very depressing topic. Sandusky is being dealt with by the law and others have been disgraced but the question remains should their be further punishment on the football program? If so what should it be?
For the TD you can argue nothing or something different from what I am proposing.
As far as the "football" operations of the football program I think it should be left alone. Don't shut them down, don't take away scholarships or eligibility of bowl games. Who does that punish? Just people who had nothing to do with these crimes. Does it help the victims in anyway? Not that I can see.
What should happen is their should be a sanction on all profits the football team earns for the next decade. They should have to give a % to the victims and pay for any treatment they might need to help them get past this. Further they should also have to give a % to a foundation that helps people who have gone through something similar.
Frank Pentangeli said 07/14, 09:37 AM
Are you freakin ****? Really?
Ok, an employee of this program was caught sodomizing a young boy in their showers and their reaction was nothing short of the old Catholic Church motto, "How do we keep people from finding this out"?
This is a State University receiving TAX Dollars for funding. This entire University should be shut down as should the entire Catholic Church in the US. How are they linked? "paternO"
If you write them a tuition check you support boy rape. If you pay State Taxes in Pennsylvania you have funded boy rape. If you have bought a ticket to a Penn State game you have contributed funds towards boy rape and its continuous cover up.
BuckyBadger. said 07/14, 08:52 PM
Here is your typical selfish response of where you want your satisfaction but nowhere do you consider the victims. It might sound like your being the tough guy but you're basically just punishing people who had nothing to do with this.
First let me explain one of my best friends was a victim of this same crime and I also have a friend who works as a counselor for this. The victims will always have self esteem issues. Doing what you propose will make them only feel worse because innocent people will be punished and they will start to feel responsible. Hard for a regular person to understand but it is how they think. All the victims get in your proposal is the feeling that they took down a University but as long as you feel better I guess it is OK, right?
What happened was a horrific crime and all those involved directly or in the cover need to be punished and will be. To say an Engineer or History major who may or may not have liked football supported boy rape is pure hyperbole.
My proposal gives the victims a chance to start to feel self worth and gives funding to prevent future crimes. It has the victims in mind and not a sense of personal vengeance.
Frank Pentangeli said 07/14, 09:10 PM
If you paid tuition at Penn State you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you bought a football ticket you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you watched Penn St on TV you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you protested when Paterno was fired you involuntarily had something to do with it. If you paid ties to a Catholic Church you knowingly had something to do with it. If you support Penn St today in any way, shape, or form you are supporting child rape.
You have to bring the hammer down to prevent future victims.
For example, think of how many family secrets exist in this world about what uncle Johnny or Papa Johnson did? Family Secrets. If you are keeping the secret you are an enabler leading to future victims.
Penn State should be shut down. Forever.
BuckyBadger. said 07/14, 11:45 PM
You are connecting dots that don't exist. The Penn State football program didn't draw funds from the engineer getting his education. Football programs like that pay their own bills. PSU is a large school with lots of diversity. Plenty of professors and students don't even like football. Just because you go to school there doesn't mean you supported the football program. Just like I like plenty about our country but there are things I don't support. It isn't as black and white as you say.
You still have shown no concern for the victims or preventing future crimes. Your idea that whipping out a University will stop the low life in your town from raping a child is absurd. Again connecting dots that aren't there. What does prevent these kind of crimes is having safe places these victims can go to and spread awareness to the public to be able to spot it which is exactly the sort of thing Penn State should be doing, either forced or not.
You just want to shut down the University and think it will solve the problem but it only punishes people who had nothing to do with it. It will only make the victims feel worse and nothing gets solved.
Frank Pentangeli said 07/14, 11:57 PM
Have you ever bought season tickets to a major NCAA Football Program? You make a large donation to the Athletic Dept on top of the face value. You know who buys season tickets? Engineers that graduated from there. Have you ever bought a ticket to a Football game? Its relatively expensive and you know who buys them? Students and their friends and families.
You are putting this on the Football Program. That isnt the Case. There is a larger entity. The Football Program is part of the ENTIRE UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE BOARDED UP.
There is nothing anyone can do to help the victims and the UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN allowed it to go in indefinately. If he hadnt got caught hed still be doing it and the UNIVERSITY WHICH SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN would still know about it.
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