- 07/21/2012, 10:48PM ET
BFB said 07/21, 10:48 PM
Who had the best dynasty? The 70's Steelers, 80's 49ers, 90's Cowboy's or the 00's Patriots.
Whoever accepts can pick first but start reasons why in the second argument.
I will then pick and begin.
Good luck to whoever accepts.
Marlins Fan said 07/21, 10:59 PM
I really hate myself for what I'm about to say. But the obvious answer is...
... the 70''s-era Steelers. I'll wait to argue this until I know who you're picking. Good luck.
BFB said 07/22, 10:04 AM
I have chosen the San Francisco 49er's.
The winners of Super Bowls 16,19,23 and 24.
The 49er's went from a rebuilding project that had back to back 2 game winning seasons to a dominating team in the 80's winning 4 Super Bowls and continuing dominance into the early 90's
The 49er's had Joe Montana the only QB to be Super Bowl MVP 3 times. The first team to win back to back Super Bowls with 2 different coaches.
Although the Steelers were a dominant team in the 70's the 49er's dominated in Super Bowls outscoring their opponents 139 points to 63 for a margin of 76 points. The Steelers out scored their opponents 103 to 73 for a margin of 30 points.
The 49er's also hold the record for largest point difference with their 55-10 win over the Denver Bronco's in SB 24.
It can be said that like the Steelers in the 70's, no one wanted to face the 49er's in the Super Bowl in the 80's.
Marlins Fan said 07/23, 04:23 AM
Great choice with the 49ers. I know I said the Steelers were the obvious choice, but that was a poor choice of words on my part. The Steelers were one of TWO obvious choices, since both they and the 49ers won four Super Bowls during their respective eras.
So what separates the San Fran and Pittsburgh dynasties? Well, it has been said that dominant teams aren't true dynasties until they've won Championships in back to back years. The Steelers of the 70's can certainly lay claim to dynasty status, then, because they went back to back TWICE in the 70's. Pitt won SB's 9 and 10, and then repeated as champions again in SB's 13 and 14.
San Fran did go back to back in SB's 23 and 24, but the other two SB's they won were not in succession.
Another factor we have to consider is the quality of the competition. In the 70's Pitt faced Dallas (twice), Minnesota and the LA Rams. Minnesota played in four SB's during the 70's, and the Purple People Eaters were known as one of the most ferocious, talented and intimidating teams of the decade. The Cowboys of the 70's appeared in five SB's, winning two. Pitt played the best of the best and still won four SB's.
BFB said 07/23, 08:29 PM
As you stated in your argument about the quality of competition, the 49er's faced the likes of the Vikings, the Bears the Skins, the Rams, the Cowboy's, the Eagles and the Giants just to get to the Super Bowl. All had either won or where in a Super Bowl. Thats some pretty stiff competition.
Who did the Steelers have to get past? the only teams that represented the AFC in the same era in the Super Bowl were the Raiders,Dolphins.Colts and Bronco's. there was stiff competition from the Oilers ,Browns, Bengals, Bills and Chargers.
So in the 80's winning the NFC championship was equal to winning the Super Bowl.
So in conclusion although the 49er's won 2 Super Bowls back to back and 2 spaced apart they dominated their opponents like no other team.
It's been a pleasure TDing with you MF and from reading some comments I have some topics we might want to TD in the future. Good luck in your argument and the Voting.
Marlins Fan said 07/24, 01:52 AM
I cant argue that San Fran faced tough competition leading up to the SB, but as the 2007 Patriots made so abundantly clear, anything and everything you do before the Super Bowl pales in comparison to what happens once you reach the big dance.
I spoke earlier about the gauntlet that Pitt had to overcome to win those four Super Bowls; now I'd like to take a moment to talk about the teams the 49ers faced in their SB's, Cincinnati (twice), Miami and Denver. Cincinnati has never won a single SB and despite the fact they appeared there twice in the 80's, truth is they really weren't that great of teams. The Miami team San Fran faced was decent but far from spectacular. Marino was their only real weapon, and even he was only a second year player, albeit a great one. That Denver team was good but nothing to write home about.
All in all there is no doubt that Pitt faced much stiffer SB competition than the 49ers did.
The 70's Steelers featured the only team ever to have drafted 4 HoFers in one year (
1974, Swann, Lambert, Stallworth and Webster), and were loaded with talent. Besides the four from '74 there's Joe Greene, Bradshaw, Blount, Ham and Harris.
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