- 07/22/2012, 12:08PM ET
JimJ77 RIP Mil Town Pride said 07/22, 12:08 PM
at Tennessee - Win
vs Arizona - Win
at Baltimore - Win
at Buffalo - Loss
Denver - Win
at Seattle - Win
vs NYJ - Win
at St. Louis in London - Win
vs Buffalo- Win
vs Indy - Win
at NYJ - Win
at Miami - Win
vs Houston - Win
vs San Fran - Win
at Jacksonville - Win
vs Miami - Win
15-1 is where I end up. The additions of Lloyd and Gaffney on offense makes the 2nd best offense last season even better. On defense the Pats drafted 6 defensive players including Jones and Hightower in the 1st round to help improve the front 7. They added Gregory at safety from SD and with a returning Dowling they will be improved there.
The defense will be young and fast and better than last season.
Pats were 13-3 last season, 14-2 the season before and this squad is much improved over those two.
(Un) said 07/22, 03:40 PM
Quick flashback to 2008.
The New England Patriots were coming off a Super Bowl loss to the New York Giants. They entered the 2008 season with what was considered the easiest Strength of Schedule in the league. And then they faced this man:
Bernard Pollard. AKA New England's kryptonite.
- The man who ended Tom Brady's 2008 season.
- The same man who put Wes Welker on IR in 2009.
- The same man who caused Rob Gronkowski's debilitating ankle injury in 2011, essentially neutralizing Gronk in the Super Bowl.
Now let's fast forward to 2012.
The New England Patriots are coming off a Super Bowl loss to the New York Giants. They enter the 2012 season with what is considered the easiest Strength of Schedule in the league. Sound familiar?
New England opens the season 2-0 with Tom Brady.
They play the Baltimore Ravens in Week 3, where Bernard Pollard will inevitably give Tom Brady another season-ending leg injury. But the Pats manage to squeak out a win. At this point they're 3-0.
After that it's a whole lot of Ryan Mallett. They thrive off their weak schedule, lose to the contenders, and finish 12-4.
JimJ77 RIP Mil Town Pride said 07/22, 04:14 PM
Hmm, 12-4 without Brady huh? Seems like you're expectations of this TEAM are drastically high. I'm in total agreement.
When predicting how teams fare during a particular season, people don't often predict injuries to certain players. For instance, I am not predicting that the Heat will not win the title next season because Lebron James will walk off a cliff due to the missing lenses in his glasses.
I find is amusing that people are so quick to laugh at a 15-1 prediction for a team that has won 14 and 13 games the last two seasons with inferior clubs compared to this seasons team, and the fact that the Patriots have the easiest schedule in the NFL.
Most of it is just hatred towards the Patriots and I understand that. Its the same way that most of you are jealous of people like Arnold and I. Very handsome, successful individuals.
The fact of the matter is there are many unbiased people with the same expectations of this years Patriots that I have.
Cbssportline has predicted a 16-0 season for NE. Writers on ESPN have predicted over 13 wins for this club.
The accumulation of talent to a team that has won 27 games the last two seasons makes them a 15 game winner.
(Un) said 07/22, 11:14 PM
When it comes down to it the Patriots 2012 schedule is so easy they could win close to a dozen games regardless of who is at QB. It's just the really tough games (very few of which exist on their schedule) where they need Tom Terrific to put them over the top.
But 15 wins? You must be forgetting about that #31 ranked defense.
Ever since player personnel mastermind Scott Pioli left for Kansas City in Jan 2009, the Patriots once-heralded defense has steadily deteriorated. The talent just isn't there. Their free agency moves are highlighted by the Albert Haynesworth flop and their defensive draft picks have mostly disappointed.
Of the 14 defensive players they've drafted between 2009-2011 (including 7 players taken in rounds 1-3) only Devin McCourty has started a full 16-game season, let alone made the Pro Bowl. Meanwhile they've wasted 2nd & 3rd round picks on guys like Darius Butler (waived after 2 seasons) and Tyrone McKenzie (who never even made the team).
But we're supposed to believe they drafted some impact players on defense this year? That defies recent history.
Coming up: I'll break down the 2012 Patriot's four regular season losses...
JimJ77 RIP Mil Town Pride said 07/23, 12:19 AM
I am not forgetting about that 31st ranked defense. You must be referring to the same defense that won 13 games last season?
You're argument should've come with a disclaimer. Since 2009, which is just pathetic on your part to target 3 years and 3 rounds, on defense the Pats have drafted 4 starters. McCourty, Dowling, Spikes, and Chung.
You of course left out Gronkowski, Hernandez, Riddley, Solder, and Vollmer picks on offense. Understandably. It doesn't help your cause.
The defense will obviously be improved, but lets stay with your pathetic point and say they are not. They won 13 games last season with the 31st ranked defense and have drastically improved their offense with an easier schedule.
Lloyd and Gaffney make the 2nd best offense last year, superior. Add in Welker, Hernandez, Gronkowski, and one of if not the greatest QB of all time, Brady, and this offense is unstoppable.
You gave this Pats team 12 wins with a QB that has not played a down on offense and now you are saying that with one of the best QB's ever they cannot add at least 2 wins to that total?
That defies logic. With Brady, they will obviously win 2 more games. You're nuts to think otherwise.
(Un) said 07/23, 10:02 PM
Ras-I Dowling and his 2 career tackles is your idea of drafting a successful defensive player? Standards really have changed since Scott Pioli left.
Now, as promised, the Patriots four regular-season losses: Abridged!
Week 4 @ Buffalo. You don't think New England can win this game with Tom Brady. I know they can't win without him. No contest, moving on. Loss.
Week 5 vs Denver. Ryan Mallet in his 2nd career start gets in a shoot-out against the 2012 Comeback Player of the Year Peyton Manning (yeah, I'm predicting that too). Loss.
Week 14 vs Houston. Matt Schaub is the second-best QB New England sees all year. The Texans move the ball at ease against the swiss cheese Patriot defense. Ryan Mallett can't keep up. Loss.
Week 15 vs San Fran. After facing Houston's nasty front seven, the Pats O-line takes on the 49ers arguably nastier front seven. On a short week. Loss.
Yeah, I know the Patriots "never" lose 3 home games in a season. Tell that to the Brady-less 2008 squad. They went 5-3 at home as well. The stars have aligned. This is the season of deja vu. You can thank the New York Giants and Bernard Pollard for that.
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