- 08/14/2012, 01:16AM ET
iamthetomj said 08/14, 01:24 AM
Most people have the same inaccurate first impression of MLB which leads to those people never watching the sport again because they believe it is "boring"
Using current technology to perfect calls would make the game all about the skill and effort put forth on any given day by any given team. But what made me write this argument was to go as far as saying that home plate umpires should carry portable devices that show the accurate visual depiction of ball and strikes according the the rules. Letters to knees, corner to corner. Umpires consistently have their "own zones" which is ridiculous. There is a rule book for a reason.
Umpires do things on a regular basis that leave people scratching their heads. They position themselves where they couldn't possibly make and accurate call. Sitting on the inside corner while the catcher is on the outside corner and ringing someone up on a call that was clearly six inches or more off the plate
Making the correct call every time would improve the integrity of the game, not destroy it. The outcome of the game should be determined by players. Human eye cant be perfect on bang bang plays
Formerly from Ewa PGH Fan said 08/14, 10:09 AM
Baseball isn't boring! It's the pace of a game or lack of pace that makes a game boring.!!!
Bud Selig said in April 2010 "It isn't the time of the game, it's the pace of the game. That's the point". See this for Bud???s quote: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jspymd=20100613&content_id=11167658&vke y=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Trying to make every call correct would just disrupt the pace of a game down even more. Do we really want a home plate umpires checking an electronic device before making every ball/strike call? I for one, don???t. While I agree that technology such as reply should be used in certain circumstances to make sure calls are right, it shouldn???t be used for every call. That would drastically affect the pace of a game. I can live with a few blown calls if it means the pace won???t be affected. I would use reply for home run calls, tags, fair/foul calls but not balls and strikes.
Yes, we have to occasionally put up with umpires that have strange strike zones but that is all just part of the game and players adjust to each umps strike zone without much trouble. And when they don't, it's usually fun to see a player/manager lose it and get tossed.
iamthetomj said 08/14, 11:19 AM
Umpires are there to make correct calls. They should be more of a tool for the game instead of part of the outcome of the game like they are now. The outcome should be determined by players on the field.
You make a case about not affecting the pace of the game but agree with more replays being introduced. That would slow the pace more than a live feed to a device that the ump is holding. The ump having the device would not slow the pace. It would take less than a second to look at the device and make the call. Everyone talks about how they like the "interesting" part of human error in the game but arguing calls and managers having fits is quite a pace killer. These same people love making that argument as well until their team gets bit by it in a huge game.
Replay should be similar to the NFL. Coaches could challenge and only have 2 per game. You improve the game and maintain pace. Challenging a play would take less time than an ump and manager arguing.
Players can't adjust to a changing strike zone thru the game. Also with every ump having the same zone, hitters would hit more and the actual good pitchers would stand out. More on this later.
Formerly from Ewa PGH Fan said 08/14, 01:58 PM
Unless you eliminate umps altogether and have players make their own calls or replace them with computers umps will always be a part of the game. If umps do their job right, you barely notice them.
To avoid affecting the pace of the games I would have all replays be via booth review. Like the NFL does in the last 2 minutes of a half. Only certain plays would be reviewable and the booth would notify the umps when they are reviewing a play. The notice would have to occur before the next pitch or the play is no longer reviewable. Balls/strikes would NOT be reviewable.
The strike zone changes for each batter b/c of differences in stature and stance in the batters??? box. But I don???t want a computer calling balls and strikes which is the only way what you are proposing would work without slowing the game down a lot.
Most umps are consistent with their strike zone throughout a game. Batters don???t seem to have trouble adjusting to different umps strike zones, so why change. Great pitchers seem to get the expanded zone calls b/c they earned it with excellent control. That doesn't seem to bother me too much, even when calls are going against my favorite team.
iamthetomj said 08/15, 09:52 AM
If umps do their job right, you barely notice them.
Exactly so why is it that you are so upset by my idea? The human part of the home plate ump is them making calls in their own animated way. Someone getting rung up is something I wouldn't be willing to part with. Point is if his animated calls came from electronic device it wouldn't change the pace of the game and fans watching the game have the same experience. Only change would be correct calls. Which is what they are there for to begin with.
Great pitchers seem to get the expanded zone calls b/c they earned it with excellent control.
This is a ridiculous statement. Although it is true in many cases. Another reason changes need to be made. Players shouldn't be able to earn the right to get away with more or make the game easier on them because they are good. If they are already great, why do they need what we all like to call "superstar treatment."
Every player should be held to the same standard. In this case balls and strikes. The strike zone should always be the same width and should only change vertically due to someone's particular height. Corner to corner, LETTERS to knees.
Formerly from Ewa PGH Fan said 08/15, 12:24 PM
Humans aren't machines! We make mistakes, we???re not perfect or all the same. And we're emotional too (at least some of us)! It???s what makes us human after all!
I would rather live with the mistakes and inconsistencies that make us human than turn baseball into some SyFy sideshow that is governed by machines that always call everything the same every freakin??? time. THAT would be boring to me and a lot of other people!
I don???t go to a game to see correct calls, I go to be entertained. Hopefully by my team winning, but that doesn't always happen. If strike calls are made by computer there is no need for an ump and then you lose the animated calls and human element that so entertains us.
Sometimes good pitchers get the benefit of close calls. But so do batters. And, batters crouch to reduce their strike zone. Umps can be influenced they are human. Only way to stop that is to replace the ump with a computer or that old system tennis used to have that beeped after a serve if it missed the line. But most fans don???t want that.
It just wouldn't be baseball if Billy Martin kicked dirt onto a computer or a machine instead of an ump's shoes.
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