Throwdowns > Closed

OlderthanDirt said 08/15, 03:40 PM
Just when we think we have seen the last of the roiders or PED users, this crap happens.

If anyone remembers though, about two months back I made a comment on someone's TD that something was up with Melky. I based my comment on the fact that he had not done crap-o-la all the way through his Atlanta season.

Now all of a sudden he goes from averaging OPS+ of sub 90's to 121 last year and now 158 this year? Give me a break.

We are talking about a guy that NEVER had over 150 hits in a season and now he is leading the Majors with a 159 this season?

This is kind of a two part TD. IF you think Melky is innocent of the allegations - Throw Down. OR, even if you do not think it is a apparently obvious as it has been - TD.

Second Part: Who's Next? Is it going to come to past at some point that Joey Bats gets caught or will it be someone else?

Bautista has been on my radar scope as suspcious for a couple of years now.
Even though he has not blown up like Bonds did, there is something still not right with his numbers.

Do YOU think differently? You know what to do.

OlderthanDirt said 08/15, 05:46 PM
Bull Shirt!

A player can take all the new approaches in the world and it does NOT juice his numbers by over 100%. He went from NEVER having reached 250 TB in a season to leading the league with 351 that so called break out year.

Show me more than two other examples in MLB history where some player hit 50+ HRs in a season without having hit at LEAST 20 HR in at least 1 season prior?

At the rate that he has been hitting HRs the past three years makes him statistically a more powerful HR hitter than the Babe.

When a player hits 36% - 40% of his hits for HRs that is better than any of the greats ever did. And its not just HRs. He went from NEVER breaking the OPS+ 100 mark to averaging over 150 for this three year stretch.

Well, I for one am not buying it. You are trying to sell to me the fact that Jose has found the miracle cure for the HR swing and his name is Dwayne Murphy? Is this the same Dwayne Murphy that had a lifetime .246 BA and 166 HRs? Is that the guy? Just what did he discover after his playing career that helped Jose that massively?

I for one HOPE that I am wrong. But I also am a realist that believes if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck..MTC

OlderthanDirt said 08/16, 08:57 AM
There are flaws to your argument. Players at the Major League level do not have as big of change to make as one in Single A ball. They can already hit a fastball or they would not be there. It is recognition of the other offspeed stuff and the ability to adjust swing during the pitch that allows them to stay in the Majors.

I don't buy into all the, He adjusted his swing and now he can hit a fastball philosphy to account for the sudden surge in power. First of all, you are NOT giving credit to the pitching in the AL for making adjustments to his approach.

Do you think that pitcher after pitcher continues to try and sneak fastballs by him?
I'm sure they keep him honest but I'll bet a nickel to a donut he sees a bunch of offspeed crap.

Offspeed crap requires better timing, more patience and more discipline. And again, its not like he is hitting a ton of extra base hits. Your philosphy would indicate that his doubles and triples rate, as well as number of hits, should have risen accordingly. Well, they have not.

Remember folks, Barry Bonds NEVER failed a drug test either with all the testing he did.

BALCO was all about the non-traceable PED.

Thnks FN. GL