Throwdowns > Closed

Bundyrocksalot said 08/18, 02:17 PM
If you were arguing MVP, then your stat list would be accurate, and I could see where your guy would win the award. However, we are going to debate Rookie of the Year. This award has typically gone to the player that the media loves. In this case it would be Bryce Harper.

I want to touch on your statement. "Harper also is able to have a couple days off and (gets a way with it) because of his great team." Being the Rookie of the Year has nothing to do with what kind of team you are on...again that is usually reserved for MVP voting. Besides that, Harper has not even taken a day off. He has played 96 games already, and is on pace to play 131 games, this after missing the first month and a half of the season from playing in the minors.

We can compare numbers all day long between who has the better average? Who has more Home Runs? and Who has more RBI's? It all is irellevant, the Rookie of the Year voters have a man crush on Bryce Harper, so he is going to win it. He was selected to the All Star Game, and is always the topic of discussion every time the Nationals play. Yes, the Nats could win without Harper, but again, this is not an MVP race, its Rookie of the Year.

Bundyrocksalot said 08/18, 03:36 PM
Bryce Harper is Major League ready. The kid is 19 years old. Any rookie is going to have a learning curve, and slumps are one of them.

Harper has a huge ego? I have not noticed it, and I follow baseball pretty regularly. Again this goes back to the fact that he is a 19 year old kid having fun. Most Rookies in baseball do not have the experience to realize the business aspect of the game. Harper is in that category.

Now back to the voting. I don't think you understand the concept of Rookie of the Year voting. Does Frazier deserve to be in consideration? Absolutely he does. Most people outside of Cincinnati do not have a clue who this kid is. Same goes for Wade Miley, not many outside of Arizona knows who he is. He is having an impressive year, and that is why he is my number 2. It does not matter how valuable you are to your team, its what the media thinks of you come voting time.

Case in point...1995, Hideo Nomo won the NL Rookie of the Year award over Chipper Jones, he did have a good season, but Chipper Jones IMO was the Rookie of the Year that year. Nomo was the media hype that season, and he won the award.

Bundyrocksalot said 08/19, 11:02 AM
You contadicted yourself in your third paragraph. Sounds like you are completely anti Bryce Harper. You think breaking bats makes someone have a big ego? No sir, that makes someone very competitive, and what is wrong with that?

I would like to see the stats where Harper is hitting .200 when thrown a curveball. I know that there are some wierd wacky stats out there, but that is not one of them, (Batting average when thrown a curve ball). How does that compare with other big leaguers? A lot of people struggle to hit a curveball, that is why a pitcher sometimes may have an advantage.

You say that Harper is not that great yet. Can the Nationals win without Harper? I would say yes. So tell me, if he is not that great, why is he still in the majors? He is good enough, he is just going through a slump. You put some stats together in your first argument about a few series' that Harper was not that productive. You mention four series in particular. Its not like Harper went 0-for the series.

Point is, Harper is going to be Rookie of the Year and I will not have a problem with that what-so-ever. I could see your point in an MVP race, but not ROY.