- 08/28/2012, 04:09PM ET
Marlins Fan said 08/29, 02:20 AM
The NFC East is always tough to predict and this year is no exception. There's a lot of talent in the division and there are also a lot of variables, question marks. The NFC East is facing the AFC North and the NFC South this season so there are plenty of tough games on tap. Anyway, here's what I was able to come up with after looking at the schedules.
1. Cowboys (10-6)
The Cowboys have a relatively easy non conference schedule (Seahawks, Bears) and assuming they lose to the Saints, Falcons, Steelers and Ravens that leaves two losses from season splits with the Eagles and Giants.
2. Giants (9-7)
The Giants' non conference schedule (Packers, 49ers) is much tougher. The Giants, who never seem to dominate the regular season, will lose both of those matchups as well as games in Dallas and Philly and maybe three more from among the Saints, Falcons, Steelers and Ravens.
3. Eagles (9-7)
Philly, like NY, will lose seven. At Dallas, at New York, four out of the AFCN/NFCS games, and against Detroit. They'll beat the other non conference team (Cardinals), though.
4. Redskins (5-11)
Even RGIII won't be able to save this team.
Argos. said 08/29, 09:47 AM
First, I am an expert on this topic after predicting last years standings in this division right on (the only division I picked good...)
1. Eagles 10-6
Drafted on of the two best defensive linemen in the draft in Fletcher Cox. The front 7 was a weakness for them, but Cox should help along with 2 more 2nd round picks who play the front 7.
They added pro-bowler DeMeco Ryans to play MLB, which was by far their single biggest weakness.
I believe the loss of Samuel will improve their secondary, as they can now go with the two big corners in Aso and RDC, playing man to man, without having to worry about anyone else getting playing time. They also added OJ Atogwe as a play making safety, who can finally replace Dawkins, who they missed last season.
2. Giants 9-7
We agree here. Can be even better if they stay healthy.
3. Cowboys 8-8
First off, since when was playing the Bears an easy game? They were 8-8 last year, with Cutler missing the last 6 games (they went 1-5 without him), plus they got Marshall. Plus going cross country to the loudest stadium in Seattle is never easier either.
More on Dallas next...
4. Redskins 5-11
Marlins Fan said 08/30, 12:12 AM
Well we have an expert on our hands, folks, so I'm just going to wrap it all up and learn a little something about some good old American football.
Between Argos' expertise and DJ already having discussed this (or not, but thinking he had) with David, I'm left to wonder why I even bothered tossing in my two pennies.
Anyway, I'm going to forge on ahead and press through with this, so here goes.
I like the Eagles this year as much as anybody (well probably not as much as Nick417 or whatever) but I'm also a realist. Shady is awesome, D-Jack is probably gonna have a monster season, and Maclin is developing into a really good WR. Vick is, well Vick. meaning he's not gonna play all year long. Meaning all those skill position weapons the Eagles have will go to waste, as usual. Expect the Eagles to dominate the FF stat sheets, not so much the win column. If I was dumb enough to predict Vick would play 16 games I'd have Philly winning the division. But it's not happening. Experts like you should know this.
Giants we agree on.
You're underrating the Cowboys. Their biggest downfall was pass defense and they threw about a billion dollars at good DBs.
Argos. said 08/30, 02:01 PM
Vick might not play all 16 games, that is very likely. But he will still play the vast majority of games. However, this year they have a good backup, not like Vince Young last season. There 3rd round draft pick, Nick Foles, who was very impressive at Arizona has played terrific so far in the pre-season. They have a stable backup.
Like you said, the rest of the offence is great. They are gonna put up a lot of points.
On the otherside of the ball, they have made as big improvements as any team (other than the Packers) to put together one of the best defences in football. They don't have to be awesome, since they are so good offensively. Last season they could not stop the run due to their small front 7. Adding Ryans to the LB core, and Cox to the DL rotation, takes this front 7 from one of the worse to one of the best instantly.
Cowboys have a lot of health question marks offensively, and are thin behind their starters. Romo, Murray, Witten, Austin, and Dez all have questionable health.
The Cowboys offensive line is still the worst in the entire division as well.
Outside Ware this season, they have little pass rush. You need more than one guy to bring the pressure.
Marlins Fan said 08/31, 11:23 PM
Ok well I don't know what the heck happened last night, but FN **** blocked me the entire time after I got home from work. I logged on at about 7:30 PM and then several more times up until 5:00 AM this morning, and it just wouldn't load the page. So thanks, FN, for making me exploit the 5 minute glitch. ****.
Anyway, about the Eagles - Vick won't play 16 games. It NEVER happens (well it did once, but that's pretty bad considering Vick's been playing for over a decade) and it won't this year, either. Assuming he'll play the majority of games is pure speculation, but whatever, for all the games Vick misses the Eagles will be controlled by a rookie. Yeah, Foles has looked good in the preseason but don't be fooled... it's just the preseason, and Foles is still a rookie.
On the flip, I agree that Philly's D should be better, but then again that's what we all thought before last season, too. Turns out DRC, Asomugha, and Babin actually didn't make Philly's defense any better. So don't count those chickens until they actually hatch.
For Dallas, sure their O-Line is a major question mark. But they were 11th in OFF in 2011 with the same line.
Argos. said 09/01, 05:00 PM
It is pure speculation to assume Vick wont play the majority. You should never argue in predictions that a team wont do good because someone gets injured, because injuries can happen to anyone and everyone. I can sit here and argue saying the Cowboys will only get 6 wins because Romo goes down in the first game for the season.
Vick in his 5 years in Atlanta played 15 or all games in 4 of his 5 years as a starter. He played 13 last year, and 12 in his first year as Eagles starter. He plays the vast majority of his games.
Philly should be better on D because they are using Aso in his role. They tried to make him a hybrid player, like Woodson, this year with no Samuel, he will go back to being one of the games best one-on-one shutdown corners. Add in the additions to the front 7, and a safety to finally replace Dawkins, and this team is looking really strong on D.
The Cowboys should not be counting their chickens yet, they are the one banking on a rookie corner and Carr who has always been second fiddle to Flowers in KC.
Cowboys still have way to many question marks compared to the Eagles.
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