- 09/28/2012, 11:29PM ET
The Uppercut said 09/28, 11:29 PM
Nah, he blows. Real Topic:
WHAT SHOULD THE NBA ISSUE FOR FLOPPING?
The NBA has finally listened to the fans and decided to have a sit down, Corleon style, about the ramped issue of flopping in the game. I, for one, am thrilled since the new "And-1, I-broke-my-arm-on-that-hack play" began taking over the sport. Many have debated what the league should do to curb it, and the curbing will happen. My question is what should the punishment be?
I say give players a technical foul. No need to give suspensions out the gate, let that happen to constant,cough Manu,cough, floppers in the league.
Before my opponent makes a selection I will simply give a basis of why this should be the proper punishment:
1. It makes it difficult for a player to do it twice in a game. The fear of ejection will keep players playing clean ball after the 1st.
2. The flop happy guys like Manu and a hundred others will sooner or later cost their team a game suspension. This will not sit well in the LR, thus teams will start policing themselves in-house.
3. THE PLAYOFFS. It will cut down this BS in the postseason where it is at it's ugliest.
Good Luck, mmtc.
TnerB57 said 09/29, 04:08 AM
Flopping. Its all the rage, eh? I spent a considerable time watching a master of the Flop, Vlade Divac. A true artiste of the form, he was very entertaining, and could have excelled in soccer, had he been a foot shorter.
So, the NBA wishes to curtail this practice? Ok, I'm all for it.
However, there is absolutely no need to make it a technical foul. In fact, that is not even a feasible penalty. First off, a "flopping" call is going to be very subjective most of the time. There is bound to be controversy surrounding a great many of these calls.
It is sufficient to make the penalty for a flop a TURNOVER. Just like throwing the ball out-of-bounds, 3 seconds, double dribble, backcourt violation, or any other idiotic mistake a basketball player can make.
A technical foul is unduly harsh, when a simple turnover penalty will be every bit as effective at stopping a strategic ploy that has flourished for quite some time. Coaches hate turnovers, and will not tolerate any "Divacs" on their team, if they cost them possessions, points, and victories.
The Uppercut said 09/29, 10:12 AM
Hmm... I appreciate the effort, I really do, but a turnover is just,well, impossible. Forcing a turnover if an offensive player flops, yes, I can maybe see that, but what happens when a defender does it?
Flopping is an issue on both sides of the ball, and a turnover would be rendered useless if a defender was whistled for flopping. If it just equaled the O taking it in from the sideline, your "punishment" would have games becoming 5 hours long. So simply put, your idea holds no water, and cannot work.
And you say it will be subjective and could cause controversy, and I understand that concern. This wouldn't be something that is easy, and refs would have to learn what is the proper "flop" and players will have to learn to deal with it, like any new rule. Adaptation is key.
This is something that has seriously effected the NBA, and has made many viewers just passer-by's because of the insufferable flopping, whining and embellishing that has become standard and even applauded it seems, in the NBA. A strong stance on something like this may seem harsh, but in the end it will be the most effective way to stop it...
TnerB57 said 09/29, 03:02 PM
A turnover on defense is completely doable. Lets say the defender attempt to draw a charge with a flop on a drive to the basket. Not enough contact to call charge or block, but a clear flop. The offensive player made the basket. Ref calls flop on the play, and the offensive team gets the ball right back, with a fresh 24. Same result if the offensive player misses the layup, ball out with a fresh 24.
This constitutes a turnover, since the flopper costs his team the ensuing possession.
Also, this would not lengthen the game, as you contend. Indeed, it would be quicker than stopping time to allow free throws that a technical foul requires. Not to mention that time would also have to be stopped again if a second technical is called, and an ejection handed out.
With my solution, there is a simple call, ball out, game resumes.
Discipline will be carried out in practice, and offenders will be rewarded with bench time or release if they cannot or will not stoppa da floppa.
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