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  • 10/15/2012, 12:46AM ET

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Most athletic player in the nfl?

I got, Rg3. A close second is Patrick Peterson.


I'm going at this at just a little bit different angle.

Being the most athletic means different things to different people.

When I hear a statement like this, the first type of player I look for is that impact Manimal like Clay Matthews.

Clay has closing speed. He has bone jarring power. And he has line moving raw strength.

I guarantee you that he could bench press RGIII.

While RGIII has a strong throwing arm and great speed, there is no way he could punish people the way Matthews could.

For every feature that RGIII does possess Matthews counters with power features.

Can RGIII turn the game on one throw? Sure. But Matthews can change the course of the game on one tackle as well. It's **** for tat on what each possess, but in MY CORNER of the world, I value athleticism as being all around athletic not just fast.

So while I understand what you are trying to say, I'm saying that RGIII is NOT the most athletic due to his lack of raw strength.


AJ Hawk's been playing better than Matthews of late. I do know Matthews leads the league in sacks.

RG3's speed and agility is HIS POWER. Gurantee RG3 could do a whole lotta stuff faster than Matthews...

courtesy of wiki...

In track, Griffin broke state records for the 110-meter and 300-meter hurdles. He ran the 110-meter hurdles in 13.55 seconds and the 300-meter hurdles in 35.33 seconds. The 300 hurdles time was 1/100th of a second short of tying the national high school record at the time. He was also a gold medalist in the 110- and 400-meter hurdles on the AAU track and field circuit. In 2007, as a junior, he was rated the No. 1 high school 400-meter intermediate hurdler in the country, and was tied at No. 1 for the 110-meter sprint hurdler in the nation. His personal best in the 110-meter hurdles, 13.46 sec, ranked fifth in the world among junior athletes,[6] while his personal best in the 400-meter hurdles, 49.56 sec, was World Junior Leading in 2007.[7] Also as a junior, Griffin received the Gatorade Texas Boys Track and Field Athlete of the Year award,[5] and was named to USA Today???s 2007 All-USA Track and Field team.[8]


Your whole basis for RGIII being more athletic is ALL based on his speed and quickness. That DOES not make him more athletic , it only makes him faster. He has already shown his vulnerability to injury in the NFL because he is not built for the power game.

He has to rely on his speed and quickness to avoid trouble and make things happen.

That would be like saying Usain Bolt is more athletic that Clay Matthews and I'm sorry that just ain't the case in the way I view ahtleticism.

Now if you told me a world class Triathlete was more athletic, I would probably agree with you. But I don't agree that RGII is more athletic based only on quickness and speed.

And its not like Matthews does not have any quickness or speed himself. In fact he is one of the most dominant speed rushers in the League.

Don't think so. Watch this.



Are you feeling the pain yet?


No, I'm not.

Griffin can do a back flip, and throw a pass to Santana Moss.

Matthews is like the cookie monster.

Now you tell me who's more athletic?

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October 15, 2012  01:10 PM ET
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Wrong. But I cannot stand TD's with Peach. My head hurts after trying to read his arguments.

October 15, 2012  03:48 PM ET
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I need a TD...what the heck

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October 15, 2012  09:59 PM ET
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Originally posted 04:13 PM ET  10.15 by Longrod VonHugendong

Who has the highest score in Madden? That's the only true way to determine this.

Me. Atleast in the older Madden's where you can set each attribute to 99. Not sure if that's the case anymore.

October 16, 2012  03:33 AM ET
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I'm guessing that Ray Lewis won't be added to the equation after his season ending injury. Matthews is crazy good and can change the outcome of a game but Lewis' hits border on felonious assault. Sure, rg3 can change the game too, as the vikes found out Sunday, but he's also shown us that he can be knocked out of a game with a concussion (from Atlanta's Sean Witherspoon) and he was basically the Bengal's tackling dummy a couple weeks before that. Brian Cushing could get a nod but he's out on IR now too.

My money's on the hitter, not the hittee.

October 16, 2012  03:54 PM ET
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you guys seen this? funny

October 16, 2012  11:36 PM ET
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Originally posted 03:33 AM ET  10.16 by Thorn19

I'm guessing that Ray Lewis won't be added to the equation after his season ending injury. Matthews is crazy good and can change the outcome of a game but Lewis' hits border on felonious assault. Sure, rg3 can change the game too, as the vikes found out Sunday, but he's also shown us that he can be knocked out of a game with a concussion (from Atlanta's Sean Witherspoon) and he was basically the Bengal's tackling dummy a couple weeks before that. Brian Cushing could get a nod but he's out on IR now too. My money's on the hitter, not the hittee.

NONE of these guys are top 30. Horrible picks.

October 17, 2012  10:18 AM ET
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Just look at the opening pic of the video, RGIII can't match those guns!!!!!!

October 17, 2012  12:14 PM ET
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I like the idea of going with a bigger guy and not just a skill position player. The field is full of athletes. Even as a Packer fan though I would have gone with either Ware, JPP, or Watt. Probably JPP is the most athletic of the bunch considering his size and coordination. Would love to have seen that guy box.

October 17, 2012  12:18 PM ET
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Hawk has been out playing Matthews? That is absurd pch. Matthews is among sack leaders and is breaking up plays all over the place and Hawk has simply improved to being above average.

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October 18, 2012  03:08 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:14 PM ET  10.17 by BuckyBadger.

I like the idea of going with a bigger guy and not just a skill position player. The field is full of athletes. Even as a Packer fan though I would have gone with either Ware, JPP, or Watt. Probably JPP is the most athletic of the bunch considering his size and coordination. Would love to have seen that guy box.

hear that. haha

 
October 18, 2012  11:06 AM ET
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Originally posted 12:18 PM ET  10.17 by Just another DJ

I laughed when I read that.

Me too, trust me , I had a response coming

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