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  • 11/12/2012, 04:28PM ET

What should NASCAR do to Jeff Gordon

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I'm sure anyone that clicked on this TD knows what happened, so I won't go into detail about that.

And note the word SHOULD in the title.

My answer is simply nothing.

And let's be clear, I HATE Jeff Gordon

A couple years back, the heads said boys have at, and yesterday they had at it, while I think Jeff was clearly in the wrong, this is one of those things that is best settled on the track.

A fine won't do anything. Anything they fine him will be a drop in a swimming pool, it won't accomplish anything.

And what good would a suspension do? There's one race left, Jeff Gordon is eliminated from winning the championship, and a suspension now just means this thing will carry over into next season. The only thing a suspension accomplishes is denying Clint Bowyer a chance at payback next week.

Clint wrecks Jeff next week, there might be some more heat in the garage area, but the issue will be over and done with, and we won't have to worry about Bowyer dumping Gordon next year at Daytona and taking out 20 other cars.

Jeff made an **** of himself, but the only thing he needs to do is apologize to Joey Logano and Aric Almirola for collecting them in the wreck.


They can't just do "nothing".
My suggestion is a formal slap on the wrist, maybe in the form a financial penalty

Yes, Bowyer has been a thorn to Gordon but that doesn't mean he should have purposely taken him out, which actually led to accidents involving other cars.

NASCAR has to take an official stance against this because it's actually bigger than Gordon

It's about the integrity of the sport and also the safety of future drivers

Popular or not, if NASCAR does nothing about this, it will infuriate other teams and give precedence to other drivers to do the exact same thing, because after all "Number 24 got away with it and nothing happened"

I say a stiff financial penalty sends a good message but doesn't have any effect on the next races


All drivers in NASCAr laugh at fines. Rusty Wallace once paid his in pennies. A 6 figure fine to an 8 figure sports figure is an absolute joke. And if NASCAR fines Jeff Gordon, you know who's gonna pay it? Not Jeff Gordon,. it'll be his boss, Rick hendrick flipping the bill.

Once NASCAR said boys have at it, they had to expect things like this to happen. There's been countless forms of retaliation since Pemberton said this, and none of them have received penalties except Kyle Busch, and suspension was because it was under caution, and he literally drove Ron Hornaday head first into the wall, and Kyle was already on probation and under a microscope from an earlier incident involving Kevin Harvick and sending an unmanned car down pit road.

They didn't fine Jamie McMcMurray when he retaliated against Brian Vickers. They didn't fine Brian Vickers when he retaliated against Matt Kenseth or Tony Stewart.

Make him pay to fix the cars of Joey Logano and Aric Almirola, I could understand that, but fining jeff Gordon would be a joke and it would be a case of NASCAR going back on its word.

This definitely isn't the first time something like this has happened.


While the fine may nothing in the grand scheme of Gordon's financial status, at the very least it's an official reprimand.

What you're suggesting would make the entire situation far worse.
To do nothing is actually acknowledging that Gordon did absolutely nothing wrong and if someone else does the same exact thing, then there's also nothing wrong with it.

All of the guys you mentioned weren't fined because they basically took out one car and on top of that, they weren't one of the faces of the sport.

With Gordon, NASCAR has to at least send a public message that this kind of behavior isn't acceptable for two reasons

One - It's unprofessional
Two - It's dangerous

Keep in mind that most of the other racers had no idea that Gordon was about to take out Bowyer, so while they knew he was out of the race for some reason, they didn't expect to also become apart of the incident

Thus it's not just about Gordon, it's about the integrity of the sport and the other teams involved in NASCAR

Doing nothing would have been the wrong message


Sending the wrong message? I think you need a NASCAR history lesson. Retaliation has been a fixture in NASCAR since day one. The "If you hit me, I'm gonna hit you back twice as hard" mentality has been there since they first starting running of the beach of Daytona in the 40's.


Punishing Gordon for what happened on track is NASCAR going against it's history, and going against their call of Boys have at it.

They did nothing to Gordon when he and Jeff Burton got in a shoving match two years ago, they did nothing when he shoved Matt Kenseth, and they did nothing when he and Tony STewart were ready to kill each other. Why is this any different?


He thought he was wronged, he wasn't, but he thought he was, and he wanted to send a message, and he did. Maybe Richard Petty and Joe Gibbs should send Jeff a bill for their torn up race cars, but NASCAR should have stayed out of it.

The life blood of NASCAR is the fans. Do you think those 100,000 cheering fans in Phoenix who saw one of the more interesting things in NASCAR in a while wanted Jeff to be punished.

He and Bowyer need to settle it on the track.


There's a difference between settling it on the track and going after a guy, and making a boneheaded move that threatened numerous other drivers.

NASCAR has a reputation for allowing drivers to settle things amongst themselves, but this is when it only involves those two drivers and teams.

The fine isn't about the rivalry between Gordon and Bowyer but more about the fact that the incident involved a bunch of other teams and drivers.

In theory, yes only Gordon would lose out on points, but in reality all of the other drivers whose cars were taken out also missed points from the race and it will effect their position in standings

So if a few months down the road, a team is battling for position and the guy who was the 5th car taken out by Gordon misses out, it's a direct result of the incident

The point is that situations like this have to be treated bigger than the two teams because it actually involved more than just two teams

The fine was an appropriate slap on the risk and another driver will do the same, but at the least he'll be more careful to take out his target instead of the field.

November 12, 2012  05:34 PM ET
QUOTE:

Dale Jr. i think hit on my ex in the bahamas, so he's out. Not really, just joking out being mad. Anywho, Richard Petty was the DUDE.

Petty was before my time. As far as I'm concerned, Dale Earnhardt Sr is the best there has ever been and the best there ever will be.

His aggressiveness might have cost him a lot of wins, but also gained him a lot of wins, and nobody has come close to matching him in talent and ability.

November 13, 2012  12:11 AM ET

I like your logic Outlaw.
As a hockey fan, I always appreciated that they'd let the players police themselves to some extent (well, they used to at least. Some of that has been taken away now and it's made the game worse and led to more dirty play).

November 13, 2012  01:35 AM ET

I think they should fine him $100,000 and dock him 25 points.

November 13, 2012  05:43 PM ET

I say do nothing. The ol Number 3 car would've done the same damn thing Gordon just did back in the day. Clint has been getting into Gordon a lot lately and I think Gordon had just had enough. Let them race, it's more entertaining this way anyways.

November 13, 2012  06:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I say do nothing. The ol Number 3 car would've done the same damn thing Gordon just did back in the day. Clint has been getting into Gordon a lot lately and I think Gordon had just had enough. Let them race, it's more entertaining this way anyways.

Dale would have wrecked Bowyer on the first attempt, not wreck himself, then take out Bowyer, himself and 2 others a few laps later. And Dale wouldn't have hid behind the pit crew when Bowyer wanted to fight.

Dale would have wrecked Bowyer, Bowyer would have been the only car involved, and after the race, Bowyer wouldn't do a damned thing because he would know Dale wouldn't back down.

November 13, 2012  06:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I think they should fine him $100,000 and dock him 25 points.

And put him on probation through December 31

November 13, 2012  06:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Dale would have wrecked Bowyer on the first attempt, not wreck himself, then take out Bowyer, himself and 2 others a few laps later. And Dale wouldn't have hid behind the pit crew when Bowyer wanted to fight.Dale would have wrecked Bowyer, Bowyer would have been the only car involved, and after the race, Bowyer wouldn't do a damned thing because he would know Dale wouldn't back down.

This is true. But I think Jeff Gordon stayed hidden because he couldn't take on all of Clint's pit crew and Bowyer too. I probably would have still stepped out though.

November 14, 2012  05:33 PM ET

If'n yu's ain't rubbin', yu's ain't racin!!!!!!!!

November 15, 2012  11:07 AM ET

for once, instead of sitting back and crying JG manned-up and took action. I'm no Gordon fan but I for one say, "Hell yeah!"

November 15, 2012  11:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

for once, instead of sitting back and crying JG manned-up and took action. I'm no Gordon fan but I for one say, "Hell yeah!"

He didn't man up, he just retaliated against Bowyer when Bowyer did nothing wrong. Then he hid from Bowyer wwhen Bowyer was looking for a fight. Jeff did a lot of things. Made him self look like a dumb ****, made himself look like a coward. Confirmed to everyone on national television that he's a whiny diva, but he did not man up.

November 15, 2012  12:03 PM ET

intentionally turning into the guy and wiping out both cars seemed to be manning up to me.

November 15, 2012  12:17 PM ET

Considering it was the highlight of that race, I say crown him king.

November 15, 2012  02:14 PM ET

And let's be clear, I HATE Jeff Gordon


Amen!!!

November 15, 2012  02:21 PM ET

With all the fuss about gas prices, I have an idea: BAN NASCAR.
These stupid rednecks burn up thousands of gallons every week running around in circles.

November 15, 2012  02:47 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

With all the fuss about gas prices, I have an idea: BAN NASCAR.These stupid rednecks burn up thousands of gallons every week running around in circles.

That comment will get ya internet bitch slapped around here! HAH!

November 15, 2012  09:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

With all the fuss about gas prices, I have an idea: BAN NASCAR.These stupid rednecks burn up thousands of gallons every week running around in circles.

There aren't any circular tracks in NASCAR....

<flips a can of chaw and the newest issue of Cousinhumper Monthly to Outlaw>

November 17, 2012  04:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

There aren't any circular tracks in NASCAR....<flips a can of chaw and the newest issue of Cousinhumper Monthly to Outlaw>

Ha.

November 17, 2012  06:02 AM ET

With Gordon, NASCAR has to at least send a public message that this kind of behavior isn't acceptable for two reasonsOne - It's unprofessionalTwo - It's dangerous


Isn't the danger and the lack of professionality what everyone likes about Nascar?

November 17, 2012  06:04 AM ET

Lack of professionality may be a little strong, but you know what I mean. A lot of these guys are a little more human than other athletes, and I don't see that as a bad thing at all.

 
November 17, 2012  10:39 PM ET
QUOTE:

Dale Jr. i think hit on my ex in the bahamas, so he's out. Not really, just joking out being mad. Anywho, Richard Petty was the DUDE.

Haha, nice.

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