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  • 11/28/2012, 05:54PM ET

Goodell's Goons Gone Gangnam

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While the title is just a bunch of wishy-washy crap thrown together, the NFL's ruling on Suh's kick to the groin of Houston QB Schaub is not.

They have got to be the biggest bunch of panty waist known to Professional sports.

They have the nerve to fine the man $30, 000 without suspension.

Here's my point.

Almost everyone that saw the play initially thought it was intentional based on Suh's reputation and inclination for dirty play.

He has already been suspended once for stomping on a guy's head. Hell, how far of a reach is it to think he intentionally nutted someone?

When the league did their review and determined that since he was staring at the ground when his foot made contact and therefore a suspension was not warranted;
Then why the fine at all?

I feel it is totally wrong to rule in favor of Suh; the not intentional therefore no suspension, and then do a 180 and fine him for kicking the guy in the crotch.

These men that sit on this review board has got to be smoking some of the finest. My glaucoma begs for whatever it is they have.

If you can make an argument as to why they should have fined him $30,000 but NOT suspend him; you know what to do!


Now before I make this argument I want to make one thing very clear - I don't like Suh. I don't like him as a person (or at least the person I assume he is based off a few snapshots of his personal life) and I don't like him as a player. He was a great collegiate athlete but his NFL career seems to be trending downwards, big time. More than anything, though, I think he's majorly overrated as a defensive lineman.

But I have to go to bat for him on this issue. Not because I want to see Suh treated with kid gloves, but because I think the NFL should do the right thing for once.

And in this instance I believe the "right thing" is giving him the lesser punishment.

You see, we can't prove that Suh kicked Schaub's jewels on purpose. We can assume, and we may feel justified in that assumption because of Suh's past transgressions.

But we certainly can't prove intent, and the NFL was right in handing down a lesser penalty.

I'm ok with Suh writing the NFL a check for this situation. His history says he's violent on the field and with that in mind, a fine seems appropriate.

A suspension isn't warranted, though, simply because there's no proof of intent.


Well see, even you argued MY POINT. We can't prove that Suh kicked Schaub's jewels on purpose. Therefore, why was there a fine at all?

That was the whole argument I stated in my opening.

When we A-S-S-U-M-E then we always make an **** out of u and me.....

And using your last statement, A suspension isn't warranted, though, simply because there's no proof of intent. then the question becomes this:

When has it ever been a penalty or fine to accidently nut someone in the NFL? It happens all the time.

I will restate or clarify my argument point. IF there was NO intent or purposeful kick to the groin then there should NOT have been any fine at all. IF there was intent/purpose or malice then, given Suh's history, it should have carried a suspension.

With this guy, in this situation, it should have been all or nothing. There is NO happy medium here in this case. Either he did it on purpose as his history would lead people to believe or it was an accident.

It was not a helmet to helmet hit. It was not a below the waist hit implying Brady rule violation. Therefore , there should NOT have been a fine at all if it were incidental as the league indicates.

MTC


But no, see, I think the fine was appropriate. Suh has a history of on-the-field violence and for that reason alone we have to eliminate his benefit of the doubt and look at this incident as if there's a great chance that he did, in fact, purposefully kick Schaub's nads. Which is why I'm good with the fine.

A suspension is a bit much. Heck, even Jon Vilma and Ed Reed got their suspensions overturned, and their circumstances involved worse sins than Suh's kick to the groin. Goodell has NOT had a great track record with suspensions (especially lately) and for an incident like this, there just isn't enough evidence to make a suspension stick.

Any suspension Goodell could've handed down would've been overturned by an arbitrator, and you know that's the truth. A suspension would've been a forfeiture of penalty, in effect. It wouldn't have lasted and Suh would've got away with nothing.

But the fine is appropriate. It's not gonna be overturned and it means Suh not only is being disciplined but he has more documentation in his file to use as proof of a series of misbehaviors, should a similar incident occur in the future.

The fine was the perfect penalty.


good TD.

seee ya!


Do what now?

November 28, 2012  07:49 PM ET

how far of a reach is it to think he intentionally nutted someone?


Nutted sounds a lot nastier than a guy getting kicked in the groin.

November 28, 2012  09:39 PM ET

Haha yeah.

Makes it sexual.

November 28, 2012  09:42 PM ET

BJ Upton to the Braves.

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November 28, 2012  11:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

So glad the phillies dodged that bullet.

Yeah, I hear ya. Upton's name carries a lot of weight but honestly he's not really a great player. Super talented, but not a great player.

And he did seem like the kind of player Philly usually goes for, didn't he?

November 28, 2012  11:39 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Yeah, I hear ya. Upton's name carries a lot of weight but honestly he's not really a great player. Super talented, but not a great player.And he did seem like the kind of player Philly usually goes for, didn't he?

His sister, Kate, got all of the talent in the family.

November 29, 2012  09:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

BJ Upton to the Braves.

hate to see Bourn leave, but I am excited about them picking up Upton.

November 29, 2012  09:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

BJ Upton to the Braves.

Surprised for how much he signed for. Does that make Bourn close to a $100 million player?

I thought they could have kept Bourn for that much, who is a better player.

November 29, 2012  09:53 AM ET

He kicked him on purpose, but hitting his groin region was on accident.

November 29, 2012  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Surprised for how much he signed for. Does that make Bourn close to a $100 million player?I thought they could have kept Bourn for that much, who is a better player.

Yeah, that is the only part of the deal that perplexes me. There must have been some talk between the Braves and Bourn's agent that would lead you to believe his asking price was even higher. That and the fact a five year contract with Bourn who is a couple of years older would see them invested even more in an older player.

November 29, 2012  10:51 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

hate to see Bourn leave, but I am excited about them picking up Upton.

What was so great about Bourn?

That .215 mark in the second half with low walk numbers made me want him out of town.

Bourn is one of the fastest players in the Majors, but his strikeout numbers were way too high for a guy with not much power, and I wanted to break something every time he grounded out to first with a 3-1 count.

I'm not too happy with the Upton signing, but I say it's better than overpaying for Bourn. Collectively, Heyward and Prado stol about the same amount of bases, Upton will steal around 30, and put Andrelton Simmons in the leadoff spot and he'll add his share.

Upton has just as good of a glove. We're not losing anything by letting Bourn walk. Really, I think Jose Constanza brought the same thing to the table and would have been playing for the MLB minimum.

November 29, 2012  10:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

What was so great about Bourn?That .215 mark in the second half with low walk numbers made me want him out of town.Bourn is one of the fastest players in the Majors, but his strikeout numbers were way too high for a guy with not much power, and I wanted to break something every time he grounded out to first with a 3-1 count.I'm not too happy with the Upton signing, but I say it's better than overpaying for Bourn. Collectively, Heyward and Prado stol about the same amount of bases, Upton will steal around 30, and put Andrelton Simmons in the leadoff spot and he'll add his share.Upton has just as good of a glove. We're not losing anything by letting Bourn walk. Really, I think Jose Constanza brought the same thing to the table and would have been playing for the MLB minimum.

Constaza brought the same thing as Bourn to the table*

November 29, 2012  10:53 AM ET

Plus Upton is right handed, and we desperately needed a right handed bat.

November 29, 2012  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Yeah, that is the only part of the deal that perplexes me. There must have been some talk between the Braves and Bourn's agent that would lead you to believe his asking price was even higher. That and the fact a five year contract with Bourn who is a couple of years older would see them invested even more in an older player.

Bourn is a Boras client. That should tell you all you need to know.

November 29, 2012  11:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

So glad the phillies dodged that bullet.

Enjoy being frustrated with Michael Bourn wasting his speed by striking out half the time and grounding out to first the other half.

November 29, 2012  01:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Enjoy being frustrated with Michael Bourn wasting his speed by striking out half the time and grounding out to first the other half.

I knew he struck out a ton, but I was a little shocked to see that Bourn struck out 155 times last year and had less total bases than Upton.

November 29, 2012  01:37 PM ET

Message to those North of the Border Losers that feel the need to ruin every TD I join:

I would stop doing these TDs altogether if I thought for a second you **** would go away and leave people on here alone but I have come to realize that you cowardly **** will continue your pathetic little whiny **** stunts just to jack with people because there is no consequence at all for doing so.

To that regards I had rather my account get deleted than to give you **** the satisfaction of thinking you ran me off.

So to

Bettman Sucks Eh
Shiprock
Hank Kingsley
Canuck Eh
whale2
Stranger
and the rest of the Hockey Mafia........F You!

November 29, 2012  02:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

So toBettman Sucks EhShiprockHank KingsleyCanuck Ehwhale2Strangerand the rest of the Hockey Mafia........F You!

They have a lot of extra time on their hands these days.....

Why are they hate-voting against you? Do they think you are DJ or something?

November 29, 2012  02:26 PM ET

Whose head did he stomp on? The only head stomp I am aware of was Haynesworth stomping on Gurode's head. Suh was suspended for "kicking" a packers player that was grabbing his leg and trying to trip him after the play. Everyone mis-saw that one too as Suh was attempting to shake his leg free of the ahole grabbing him and trying to untie his shoelaces...this was ADMITTED BY THE PACKERS PLAYER so it doesn't leave much room to argue. Suh got a bad rep and everyone has seen everything he does in a worse light then it really is. There was all that bashing of him for that nasty hit on Jay Cutler that was COMPLETELY LEGAL. People need to get their heads out of their arses and pay attention to what is ACTUALLY happening instead of just jumping on the bandwagon with a bunch of idiots

 
November 29, 2012  02:30 PM ET
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They have a lot of extra time on their hands these days.....Why are they hate-voting against you? Do they think you are DJ or something?

No. Because I stood up for DJ during a discussion here about six months back. Ever since they hate vote against me as well as DJ.

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