- 11/28/2012, 05:54PM ET
OlderthanDirt said 11/28, 05:54 PM
While the title is just a bunch of wishy-washy crap thrown together, the NFL's ruling on Suh's kick to the groin of Houston QB Schaub is not.
They have got to be the biggest bunch of panty waist known to Professional sports.
They have the nerve to fine the man $30, 000 without suspension.
Here's my point.
Almost everyone that saw the play initially thought it was intentional based on Suh's reputation and inclination for dirty play.
He has already been suspended once for stomping on a guy's head. Hell, how far of a reach is it to think he intentionally nutted someone?
When the league did their review and determined that since he was staring at the ground when his foot made contact and therefore a suspension was not warranted;
Then why the fine at all?
I feel it is totally wrong to rule in favor of Suh; the not intentional therefore no suspension, and then do a 180 and fine him for kicking the guy in the crotch.
These men that sit on this review board has got to be smoking some of the finest. My glaucoma begs for whatever it is they have.
If you can make an argument as to why they should have fined him $30,000 but NOT suspend him; you know what to do!
Marlins Fan said 11/28, 11:39 PM
Now before I make this argument I want to make one thing very clear - I don't like Suh. I don't like him as a person (or at least the person I assume he is based off a few snapshots of his personal life) and I don't like him as a player. He was a great collegiate athlete but his NFL career seems to be trending downwards, big time. More than anything, though, I think he's majorly overrated as a defensive lineman.
But I have to go to bat for him on this issue. Not because I want to see Suh treated with kid gloves, but because I think the NFL should do the right thing for once.
And in this instance I believe the "right thing" is giving him the lesser punishment.
You see, we can't prove that Suh kicked Schaub's jewels on purpose. We can assume, and we may feel justified in that assumption because of Suh's past transgressions.
But we certainly can't prove intent, and the NFL was right in handing down a lesser penalty.
I'm ok with Suh writing the NFL a check for this situation. His history says he's violent on the field and with that in mind, a fine seems appropriate.
A suspension isn't warranted, though, simply because there's no proof of intent.
OlderthanDirt said 11/29, 09:49 AM
Well see, even you argued MY POINT. We can't prove that Suh kicked Schaub's jewels on purpose. Therefore, why was there a fine at all?
That was the whole argument I stated in my opening.
When we A-S-S-U-M-E then we always make an **** out of u and me.....
And using your last statement, A suspension isn't warranted, though, simply because there's no proof of intent. then the question becomes this:
When has it ever been a penalty or fine to accidently nut someone in the NFL? It happens all the time.
I will restate or clarify my argument point. IF there was NO intent or purposeful kick to the groin then there should NOT have been any fine at all. IF there was intent/purpose or malice then, given Suh's history, it should have carried a suspension.
With this guy, in this situation, it should have been all or nothing. There is NO happy medium here in this case. Either he did it on purpose as his history would lead people to believe or it was an accident.
It was not a helmet to helmet hit. It was not a below the waist hit implying Brady rule violation. Therefore , there should NOT have been a fine at all if it were incidental as the league indicates.
Marlins Fan said 11/29, 09:27 PM
But no, see, I think the fine was appropriate. Suh has a history of on-the-field violence and for that reason alone we have to eliminate his benefit of the doubt and look at this incident as if there's a great chance that he did, in fact, purposefully kick Schaub's nads. Which is why I'm good with the fine.
A suspension is a bit much. Heck, even Jon Vilma and Ed Reed got their suspensions overturned, and their circumstances involved worse sins than Suh's kick to the groin. Goodell has NOT had a great track record with suspensions (especially lately) and for an incident like this, there just isn't enough evidence to make a suspension stick.
Any suspension Goodell could've handed down would've been overturned by an arbitrator, and you know that's the truth. A suspension would've been a forfeiture of penalty, in effect. It wouldn't have lasted and Suh would've got away with nothing.
But the fine is appropriate. It's not gonna be overturned and it means Suh not only is being disciplined but he has more documentation in his file to use as proof of a series of misbehaviors, should a similar incident occur in the future.
The fine was the perfect penalty.
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