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damn you Gruden!!!!

welcome chucky...let's throw it down

"How long will it last?" - Its been going on for years. Small market low budget teams have been doing extremely well since they learned the ways to do it. Baseball does not need salary cap. Only needs revenue sharing which they already have. Just need to improve the revenue sharing plan a little.

interesting, i go with plato for different reasons, you cant buy series wins weve seen that and its not going to change

the problem is everytime a small market team makes it their players promptly leave for the large market teams, preventing the teams from growing in both value and fan base

noone cares anymore about baseball, ratings are in the dirt, its rediculous that A-rod thinks hes worth that much but if someone will pay it hell go, and that blatent disregard for fans/winning/ or a sense of home team is what has cost baseball its respect

hence the marlin fans dont give a rats balls and theyve won 2 in what the last 10 yrs?

Baseball doesn't have a playoff system???

Geez, I wonder what I've been watching for the last few weeks.

gruden cheats he has over 8 different profiles

LO is an idiot, he has only 1/2 a brain. This is my only throwdown profile.

I think the salary cap ship has already set sail. 6 or 7 years ago, I was an emphatic supporter of the cap. Now, small market teams have gotten stronger in ways that do not require mega-contracts: through the draft, scouting and player development.

Thanks Krobe. I've challenged him several times to show me the other profiles.

How do you explain the Yankees in the eighties? or many of the teams with highish payrolls not performing up to their salary seeding. Let us also recognize that it takes a particular disregard for value to have a payroll that high, Giambi at 23 mil Mussina at 18 or so, the list goes on but you get the idea. When bringing a guy in, if years and money are not as important you can pay him the one or two extra to ride the bench at a highly inflated salary.
salary caps are communism.

Gruden, I usually agree with you, but a question here:

The Red Sox and the Yankees spend the most, and every year they are both in the playoffs (Yankees 12 years straight). Although not necessarily impacting the World Series, those two clubs have won 5 between them in the last 12 years. Is there another sport that has that consolidated base of champions in such a short period of time in modern sports history?

I just wonder although right now we have clubs with lower salaries winning, how long will it last when the Red Sox and Yankees steal their best players in a few years when their contracts are up? I think the problem is not necessarily this specific year, but overall, competition levels are down somewhat.

I have not voted yet - I just want to know your thoughts on this . Thanks!

what the hell happened to bombers gruden?

i'm gonna say it again: there is no need for a salary cap. at all. revenue sharing right now is perfectly fine and there is no such thing as a "small market team;" there are only owners who don't like to spend money. the owners of the Royals, Devil Rays, Pirates, Twins, etc. can afford ANY player they want at ANY price he demands, they just don't want to.

Simple answer there Acura: They are in the same division with another monster salary team, Baltimore. And with all of that in one division beating on each other and outspending everyone, it really doesn't affect the other divisions.

as for competition spreading around, there were 7 playoff teams this year that weren't in the playoffs last year; the Yankees were the only repeat team. there has been a different World Series winner every year since 2000 and no team has won it twice in that time.

bam I was gonna say that jet.

So, you agree that if more teams start this monster spending in other divisions, then the problem gets worse? Are you saying that since it is only out of control with two teams no salary cap is needed? I understand if that is your approach. I wonder what the people in Tampa, Toronto, and the rest of the AL think?

To be honest, I am of a mixed mind of this. I will rate this on the completed throwdown and then vote - based on your arguements. Thanks for your time.