- 12/30/2012, 11:25PM ET
JimJ77 Can't make it up said 12/31, 03:15 PM
There are several reasons why I believe Tony Picks is the biggest choke artist in sports.
1. His record in December/January games is 15-22.
2. His record in one and done games is 1-6. In those games he averaged 254 yards per game, had 8 TDs and 7 INTs. His QB rating is 77.27.
3. Teams filled with talent for years and a lot of regular season wins but when it matters he loses.
When the moments are biggest he shrinks. Last night was a perfect example of what Romo has become. Terrible decisions in the biggest moments. With the game on the line he vomits all over his cleats.
You basically have a guy who can win games with a ton of talent surrounding him and he wets himself when it matters. That's what makes him a choke artist. Its not like this is a guy who just plain stinks and can't win games. What makes him a choke artist is games like last night. Who didn't know that he was going to throw a horrendous pick with the game on the line?
The script was been written before with this guy and we all know in the next big game he will piss it away because that's just what Romo does. He loses games when they matter.
Biggest choke artist in football and in all sports.
Justin Cyder said 12/31, 03:56 PM
Because he's a QB that fails so miserably late in the season it is hard to deny Romo this title as the biggest choker. But in football everygame is important and he's 55-38 as a starter so his teams probably don't get to those big games without him. My choice is a baseball player and it's hard to compare the impact of one baseball player as compared to a QB.
However, this individual has been so incredibly putrid in the playoffs it's almost hard to believe.
His lifetime numbers are not fantastic due to some down seasons but are respectable.
Batting Average 256 OBP 361, 828 ops but he does average 90 RBI's averaged our to a 162 game season so he gets the hits when needed.
Now lets take a look at this players lifetime playoff numbers.
Batting Average 169, OBP 283, OPS 589. Thats an incredible drop off. But where he craps the bed the most is in the RBI department. He has 8 RBI's in over 150 at bats in the playoffs. If you average that over a regular season that would be about 32 RBI's. For a full season playing every day.
JimJ77 Can't make it up said 01/01, 05:11 PM
But in football everygame is important and he's 55-38 as a starter so his teams probably don't get to those big games without him.
This is exactly what makes Romo a giant choker. He has shown the ability to win games, a lot of games, but when it matters most he fails miserably. This is the definition of a choker.
Swisher is a nice ball player, but he's not elite player. Romo is thought to be an elite QB. In my opinion Swisher not showing up in the playoffs doesn't make him a choker. He's not that great of a player with a career .256 average and he faces the best pitching in the playoffs. It's not shocking to me that he can't get it done in the playoffs when you add those two elements up.
Romo, on the other hand, is supposed to be one of the top QBs in the NFL, and statistically he is. Top 10 in QB rating, 6th in TDs, and 3rd in passing yards. He also wins a bunch of regular season games as you pointed out.
Get him in a big game with everything on the line and he folds like a cheap suit. He chokes. Whether its fumbling the game away or throwing a killer interception or just flat out not showing up, Romo has consistently shown that he is a choker. Swisher? Eh.
Justin Cyder said 01/01, 05:35 PM
Yes it's Nick Swisher. And your point about Swisher not being elite means he doesn't have pressure on him. Romo has all the pressure as the QB of flawed teams and everything ends up coming back to him. A well thrown ball glances off a receivers hands and is a late game int and it's his fault. He has nothing but pressure and an idiot owner who thinks he's a GM and surrounds him with talented headcases who run awful routes and need babysitters.
Ole Swish on the other hand shouldnt have a care in the world. All eyes are on A Rod, if not him Cano, if not him Jeter, if not him Texiera, if not him Granderson. Yet, with no pressure on him Swisher can't hit water if he fell out of a boat once October rolls around. He can't even field a pop fly in October. He missed two easy ones in last years playoffs costing the Yanks a game.
At least Romo has the common decency to have someone put their hands around his neck before he chokes, Swisher chokes himself.
So who's the bigger choker, the guy who chokes with all the responsibility and pressure in the big spot or the guy who has no pressure on him yet still can't manage to do a damn thing once the game means something?
JimJ77 Can't make it up said 01/02, 11:00 AM
Here's the biggest difference between Romo and Swisher. Swisher isn't a star on the team. He's just a role player and thus expectations are not there for him to perform in critical spots.
Romo is the QB. The most important position in all sports. Fairly or unfairly QBs are judged on wins and losses, especially in big games. And in big games, Romo has been a complete flop.
My expectation of Swisher is to be a mediocre player, because that's what he has been his entire career. He's not putting up elite numbers that Romo puts up every season. He's not leading his team to victories during the regular season like Romo is.
Romo has proven to be a very good QB. Swisher has proven to be a very mediocre baseball player.
So when the lights shine brightest who has the bigger expectations? Romo, who's one of the top QBs in the NFL for one of the most well know franchises in sports or Swisher who's never in the spotlight?
Romo is now known as a notorious choke artist. Whether its fumbling a snap on a FG or throwing the ball to the wrong team in big games, he always chokes. Before this TD, people wouldn't even know Swisher's playoff failures, because he doesn't matter. Romo does.
Justin Cyder said 01/02, 02:21 PM
You're making my point for me. Romo is in the most important spot as the QB and has all the pressure. Any little thing he does wrong is going to be magnified ten fold. He averages over 250 yards a game in those big spots and that would average out to a respectable 4000 plus yards in a full season, He throws more TD's than interceptions in those games although just slightly yet still is seen as the only reason they lose. And a couple of those int's are in garbage time when games were over.
If averaging over 4000 yards a season and more TD's than int's is choking most QB's choke in big spots. Where's the guys help? Where's the O line? He's back there running for his life most of the time getting the crap knocked out of him. It's not surprising he throws int's late in games, he's probably half concussed sees three Dez Bryant's and tries hitting the one in the middle. Which won't matter anyway because Dez would probably just end up running an incorrect route anyway.
You say no one would know about Swisher's playoff failures but there's a reason the Yanks let him walk and he's been a productive Yankee. The Indians signed him up and they know they won't be playing in October
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