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No-Huddle said 02/10, 02:38 PM
Criteria/Rules:
1. Must have team under/match the salary cap set for 2012-13 (58.044 million) using 2013 player salaries
2. Field a legitimate 12 man team, label starters and 6th man, plus choose a head coach. Team positions must be applicable (ex. Tim Duncan cannot play PG) but a PG can play SG, as can PF play SF or C, if desired.
3. Player tendencies/roles could be a factor for future discussion (ex. using Dwight Howard and Tyson Chandler on the same team could be considered "detrimental" due to a roles clash. Current injured players will be treated as healthy.
4. Players cannot be on both teams. Once a player is chosen, the other team cannot pick.
And finally, at the end, each must defend why their team is better.
Here we go:
Dallas Mavericks:
Coach: Phil Jackson
C - Kevin Love 13.6M
PF - Dirk Nowitzki 19M
SF - Harrison Barnes 2.8M
SG - James Harden 5.8M
PG - Ricky Rubio 3.4M
6th Man: Chandler Parsons 850,000
7 - JJ Barea 4.3M
8 - Jeff Teague 1.5M
9 - Austin Rivers 2.2M
10 - Daniel Orton 854,400
11 - Kendall Marshall 1.9M
12 - Omar Asik 1.8M
Total: 57.8M
Will defend players later in the argument! Best of luck to my opponent!
fvkasm2x said 02/10, 06:24 PM
Toronto Raptors (hey, no matter what... I'll improve them).
Coach: Gregg Poppovich
C- Al Horford 12M
PF- Taj Gibson 2.16M
SF- Danilo Gallinari 9.44M
SG- Kevin Martin 12.4M
PG- Kyrie Irving 5.38M
6th- Luis Scola 4.15M
7- Ty Lawson 2.54M
8- Terrence Ross 2.56M
9- Jonas Valenciunas 3.37M
10- Mikael Pietrus 698,589
11- Alan Anderson 854,389
12- John Lucas 1.5
Total: 57.5M
I've kept most of the bench for the Raptors, because they are inexpensive and the bottom two especially, won't even make the court. Most teams go with a 10 man rotation or less. The starters are overpaid and need a major revamp. Gay and DeRozan are redundant. No point in having the same style of player at your 2 and 3 spots. Colangelo is an idiot.
Ross is a budding young star. You'll see him at the All Star game in the dunk contest.
Pietrus is a vet to provide leadership and playoff experience from the pine, on the cheap.
I won't argue much since you didn't get a chance to.
No-Huddle said 02/11, 10:42 AM
Alright, good choices. now I'm going to match players up and compare:
C- Horford vs Love: Love (no pun intended) this matchup. But Love is simply too swift and too versitile for Horford to keep up. Love is a dream as he can shoot from anywhere, is a rebounding machine, and is a quiet team leader. Love has a good history vs Al. I see a double double for both players, but barely a double for Horford.
PF- Gibson vs Nowitzki: Dirk is the proven scorer in this, but it's widely known Dirk's defense is lacking. Fortunately for him, Taj is only a so-so scorer. Taj hangs his hat on defense. And the defense is where Taj will be struck. Dirk has perfected the ability to create shots off of literally...anything. Taj is an aggressive defender, nothing more, nothing less. But to match up with Dirk, Taj needs a more finesse approach (and a bit more of a reach for the seven footer). I would call this a 30pt night for Dirk and give Taj 14 pts/10 boards.
SF - Danilo Gallinari vs Harrison Barnes: This is tough. I picked Barnes as an "up and comer". A diaper dandy for the big boy league. He's yet to really come into his own, or possibly never will. I'll explain more on this next round.
fvkasm2x said 02/11, 06:24 PM
You've got 2 glaring problems that I see with your team, other than the fact that I think my guys are better players overall. I mean, I've got 3 guys on the bench who could easily be starters on a team that doesn't have my depth.
But your problems?
1) Dirk is older and his body is breaking. He's not the offensive threat he once was. This year he is getting 15pts, 5.5 boards and 2.5 assists.
You're paying 19 million $$ for production you could get for 1/4 the cost. He's also not scary on the defensive end. He may not have to worry "much" about Gibson, but what about the lane defense? Lawson and Irving like to drive. His help defense isn't strong enough.
2) You've got two big men with somewhat the same offensive skill set. Horford couldn't keep up with Love? Are you serious? Horford has guarded SF before and deals with PF/C on a regular basis. He can keep up with anyone. You can't really space the floor with Love/Dirk because my guys can easily defend them. That means a key part of your game (shooting bigs) is minimalized.
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Fun stuff. I will get to this in 3 hours when I get home and have time to research salaries!
fvkasm2x
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Sounds good. Best of luck!!
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Good topic. This should be a good one.
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Zen-Master and Pop coaching the Mavs and Grizz, respectively?
Lost me there.
Actually after re-reading this thing, WTF is going on? Each roster is a conglomeration of pretty good-to-not-so-good players.
If you guys had the option of picking whoever you wanted, where the heck is LeBron? His cap number is less than Dirk's and comparable to other guys I listed.
Maybe I'm just tired or something but for whatever reason I don't get it.
Marlins Fan
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Fixed.
Marlins Fan
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The only players listed here that I would actually want on my team are obviously Harden and Irving. And I guess I could be talked into taking Rubio, and maybe Love, even though the guy doesn't seem to be very durable.
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Pretty much, except most of the obvious All-Stars are missing.
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I agree it is a little strange, but I just figured it was a "make your favorite team the way you want it to look like within the salary cap."
That's why I left most of the bench players on my team actually from the Raps.
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If you are GM in the NBA you need one of the top stars. No league has lest parity than the NBA. I don't get why anyone even watches this league. Since 1980 they have had only 9 different champions. Stop wasting your time with this star driven league. If it was actually team basketball I would give it a chance but it isn't.
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so what is the answer? To me, it simply shows that it is easier to keep the core of a 5 man team together easier than 6 (NHL...but you have to have subs) 9 (MLB) 22 (NFL)
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Fair enough, old chap.
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