- 04/29/2013, 03:34PM ET
HighwayCrossingFrog said 04/29, 03:34 PM
1. He potentially hurt his next contract..
Some teams may or may not have an issue..
It was a risky move..
2. He made the locker room a little more interesting..
I don't like changing in front of straight people..
But now Collins made changing an issue for some people..
3. I had a gay rugby team mate once..
It's hard to describe in words..
But there was an element of uncomfortableness..
It was different..
Inside the locker room..
4. Everyone when it comes to sexuality..
Has their own comfort level..
It's an incredibly complex issue..
While some athletes might not have a problem..
It's inevitable that some will..
5. This has nothing to do with tolerance..
This has everything to do with comfort level..
In the military they have a dont ask don't tell policy..
In sports the same policy should be in tact..
6. This is not the feel good story..
This is the new complex story..
7. He is brave..
But now he has turned into a potential monkey-wrencher..
8. The same could be said with religion in sports..
Could you imagine an athlete saying praise be Allah,
Everytime he was voted man of the match?
Marlins Fan said 04/29, 04:45 PM
Well... obviously it was important to Collins to be the first openly gay, active pro athlete among the major American sports. And since it was important to Collins all I can say is Mission Accomplished!
Collins had every right to come out now. I'm not one of those people who was anxiously waiting for a pro athlete to come out, simply because I don't believe in this Twitter culture. I don't think Irs my business who Collins or any other athlete goes to bed with. Personally I'm a little weary of knowing every athlete's deepest secrets. It's overkill.
But this isn't about my opinion, either. It's about breaking down barriers, and Collins took a virtual sledgehammer to the "I don't want no gays in my locker room" crowd.
That's something to be celebrated, to some extent. Mainly just because Collins represents a portion of the population who at times feels like they're looked down upon.
Several straight athletes have broadcaster their opinions over the years. Frequently we've heard from the guys who don't want gay teammates. So this is just an evening of the score. Collins leveled the playing field somewhat.
No problem with that, whatsoever.
HighwayCrossingFrog said 04/29, 08:06 PM
This is a dangerous topic..
Did the movie brokeback mountain accomplish something?
Or did it make cowboys even more homophobic?
You have to question these things..
What could he possibly have to gain?
Yeah.. Great.. He is a a somebody now..
A household name.. Great..
But this isn't about race..
Sexuality is a million times more complex..
I know there are approximately 5% of the population is gay..
If I was his team mate now..
I would probably change in the toilet stalls..
It would be like me changing in the girls bathroom..
Seeing naked flesh would arouse me..
It's the same for homosexuals..
It's human nature..
If I had to guess..
Collins wanted to be remembered as a barrier breaker..
What is the price?
To be a team mate that makes some in certain positions feel uncomfortable?
Like I said acceptance of sexuality is incredibly complex..
If you knew your doctor was gay..
Would you change doctors?
Some people would..
I'm open to a world that accepts people..
The main reason why I voted democrat was cause they treat women and gays like normal people..
But Collins just made things incredibly complex..
Marlins Fan said 04/29, 08:24 PM
I don't know what Brokeback Mountain accomplished but then again I'm not here to defend homosexuality. I have my own opinions on the subject (which I will not disclose, mainly because who cares what I think) but this isn't about my opinions or beliefs. Like I said I'm not here to defend homosexuality, nor am I here to bash it.
I'm here because I fully believe that Collins has a right to come out (or to not come out) at any time he pleases. As I said before I don't think anybodys sexuality is really our business at all but if a gay athlete wants to let us all know he likes the dong, well he certainly has a right to say so. And we don't have the right to tell him his timing is bad. It's his life, his sexuality, his business. Not ours.
Collins did make things complex. I suppose it would've been easier to not ripple the lake and just keep his sexuality to himself. But Collins apparently felt obligated to go public. Maybe he felt like he was willing to martyr himself for the cause, I don't know. Whatever his reasons he did what he did and now its done.
Which is good because now we can stop caring. His business can go back to being his business.
HighwayCrossingFrog said 04/30, 05:17 AM
I'm down 8-1..
I'm going to bail..
I didn't think we would see someone come out for another 20years..
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