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  • 07/06/2013, 02:39PM ET

Does Character Matter?

williewilliejuan (47-5-2) vs YankeeSteel (13-29-1)
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In light of the Aaron Hernandez controversy, will teams pay more attention to character issues of talented prospects?

Not really. The kneejerk reaction to the question would be "of course teams will pay more attention to character issues", but will they really? To answer that question, you would first have to understand how teams view character issues today.

Teams already pay a lot of attention to character issues. They perform extensive background checks of potential draftees, including interviews with friends, former coaches and associates. They pay substantial sums of money to dig deeply into the player's past. Outside of politics and national security, there are few professions where the background of potential employees is scrutinized more heavily than the NFL. It would be difficult to pay more attention to character issues than they do already.

The post-Hernandez draft will look a lot like the pre-Hernandez one. Teams will perform extensive due diligence to find character issues. Talented players with character issues will see their stock drop until they reach the tipping point in the risk/reward balance and teams can no longer pass them up. Same as ever.


In light of the Aaron Hernandez controversy, will teams pay more attention to character issues of talented prospects?

I agree with your statement 75%...which the other 25% should earn me a well deserved victory.

Sure teams look into the players past , and Hernandez stock did drop , and still Patriots drafted him and gave him a lot of money. The 25% different is what you failed to declare is that now there will be stipulations in contracts to void guaranteed money , also contracts for players " under radar" will have probation kind of standards attached to them.

Does player have to sign this contract ..YES ...because every team will be authorized to exercise this stipulation.

The evaluation, prepared by Human Resource Tactics in North Carolina, a company used by more than half of the NFL's 32 teams, said Hernandez scored a lowest possible 1 out of 10 in "social maturity," although he scored a perfect 10 in "focus" and nines in "self-efficacy" and "receptivity to coaching."

In light of Hernandez I believe that a lot of character issues will look at more closely, doesn't mean they wont be drafted.

NFL radar just went up 150% , this will help players and league.


I honestly didn't understand about half of your argument, but will reply to the part I did. You basically said that you agree with me about how teams will draft, but think that teams will now insert morals clauses into contracts to recoup money. Right?

The standard NFL contract and/or CBA have three clauses that bear upon this situation. First, the Skill, Performance and Conduct clause: "...if player has engaged in personal conduct reasonably judged by Club to adversely affect or reflect on Club, then Club may terminate this contract."

Second, the forfeitable breach clause in the CBA, which basically says that players forfeit any bonuses that haven't been accounted for if they are unavailable due to incarceration (among other things). Third, there is a clause in the CBA that says that players and teams can't agree on terms that require forfeiture beyond what is already described in the CBA.

So...when you boil it down, your argument is that teams will draft the way they already do (thank you for agreeing with me there), but they will either insert language into the contract that already exists or cannot be inserted without running afoul of the CBA. Good stuff.


Sure the CBA has it's guidelines, but what you are saying is that in light of Hernandez troubles nothing will change...which is absoultly false.

Ted Sundquist Broncos general manager from 2002 to 2008, said there's a misconception that the NFL provides teams with thorough background checks on prospects.

"There really is no league vetting," he said. "You can contact the league for some things, but for the most part they're not going to give you what people are wanting, which is a top-to-bottom full report on a guy's character, his police blotter, all that kind of stuff. It's up to the individual clubs most of the time to really hunt that down."
He said typically clubs do not hire private investigators but instead rely on their area scouts, some of them young and inexperienced, to obtain background information on prospects. Often, that information comes from the player's college, which might not be forthright.

"Some of the schools will tell you what you need," Sundquist said. "But if you don't have the relationship built, if it's a young scout that goes in there, they're going to protect their reputation and their head coach, and the fact that they recruited a knucklhead

July 6, 2013  02:40 PM ET

Direct challenge. Topic chosen by opponent.

July 6, 2013  02:49 PM ET

Sounds about right to me.

July 6, 2013  03:05 PM ET

Let the starching begin!

July 6, 2013  03:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Sounds about right to me.

yup.

but maybe right can come up with some sort of list to convince me otherwise...

July 6, 2013  09:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

yup.but maybe right can come up with some sort of list to convince me otherwise...

It's gonna have to be one doosie of a list!

July 6, 2013  11:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Direct challenge. Topic chosen by opponent.

Got a lot more for ya too , always good when you run out of words in 1rst argument

July 6, 2013  11:05 PM ET
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Got a lot more for ya too , always good when you run out of words in 1rst argument

Dude. I never run out of words.

July 6, 2013  11:06 PM ET
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Got a lot more for ya too , always good when you run out of words in 1rst argument

I wouldn't recommend disclosing that kind of information against a high profile opponent. It can be used against you. In terms of strategy.

July 6, 2013  11:31 PM ET

I'm still scratching my head about this helping the players. Maybe that's one of the arguments to come...

July 6, 2013  11:43 PM ET
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I'm still scratching my head about this helping the players. Maybe that's one of the arguments to come...

yep

July 6, 2013  11:45 PM ET

Im thinking Round 1 went my way , I think your buddys would have to agree ,,,survey says,,,,

July 6, 2013  11:49 PM ET

I'll sit ya down again tomorrow , keep thinking , So your saying nothing will change in the NFL ok...lets keep it there and don't change your mind and I will continue to shut you down lolol ...easy

July 6, 2013  11:51 PM ET
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Im thinking Round 1 went my way , I think your buddys would have to agree ,,,survey says,,,,

Think again

Have you ever referred to yourself as Craig? SbtB?

July 6, 2013  11:57 PM ET
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Think again Have you ever referred to yourself as Craig? SbtB?

So you like his argument more than mine? You agree with him that nothing will change ? Or are you his buddy and will vote for him regardless ...Ill say number 3 Chuck lol

July 7, 2013  12:09 AM ET
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So you like his argument more than mine? You agree with him that nothing will change ? Or are you his buddy and will vote for him regardless ...Ill say number 3 Chuck lol

No, willie is right. It's no different than the Bruins going after Tyler Seguin. These type players being so young and talented will 99% of the time be given the benefit of the doubt.

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July 7, 2013  12:14 AM ET
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JUST SHUT UP. you suck.

Ahh another pom pom boy ...great answer loser

July 7, 2013  12:16 AM ET
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Run out of words? Have 150 characters left? Have no fear, quote you opponent word for word! It'll make you look just as smart every time.

Are you saying I had 150 characters left?

 
July 7, 2013  12:19 AM ET
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So you like his argument more than mine? You agree with him that nothing will change ? Or are you his buddy and will vote for him regardless ...Ill say number 3 Chuck lol

I agree with his argument more than yours. So far. I've watched enough sports to know that if a guy has talent, teams will do what ever they can to rehab them. So yeah, not much is going to change, other than teams getting some contractual relief if it goes bad. But that in itself, means a team signed them to a contract.

As far as him being a buddy, this is the internet. Would I sit down and have a cold NA brew with him? You betcha. But I don't auto vote. The fact that wwj comes up with compelling arguments is the reason he gets my vote a majority of times. And you can call me UBP. Not sure who Chuck is.

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