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  • 08/19/2013, 10:56AM ET

Best and Worst depth at QB going into season.

OlderthanDirt (88-37-13) vs 7#bag _ Com (998-338-74)
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terms of this TD:

Select two teams each from the NFC and AFC. One team each for best depth chart at the QB position going into the Season and One team for the worst depth chart at the QB position going into the season.

Let???s assume the teams are expected to have a good run at making the playoffs going into the season. This means IF you choose a team like the Browns , you must be ready to explain why you thought they would ever make the playoffs to begin with.

1st argument: NFC Best depth
2nd argument: AFC Best depth worst depth in both AFC/NFC
3rd argument: counter arguments

1. I will select the Washington Redskins as having the best depth going into the season. For me it came down between them and the Eagles. Everyone knows that RGIII can put a team on his shoulders and carry them a long way. We also know he can be reckless with his body at times and hopefully he has learned that you can???t get away with that at this level. However, it was quite clear that Kirk Cousins can step in nicely if/when RGIII goes down. But, not only do the Redskins have the young Cousins on standby they also have a Veteran in Rex Grossman. For these reasons I feel the Skins are set.


I'll take the Iggles.

For the plain reason is I love Matt Barkely and I think that he will be the starter next year. But he might be stuck on the depth chart for this year- at least to start.

The Question is who is the starter, of course, but for these purposes, I'll go with Vick as the starter.

But for this year? I have Nick Foles, who passed for almost 1700 yards- He only played 7 games but did average 242 yards a game. He did throw 5 picks to go against his 6 TDs, but again, he was a rookie. He's also 6'6 245 pounds, so he can take a beating more than Vick.

I also have Dennis Dixon, who has 4 years in the NFL under his belt, and is also from Oregon, so he knows the system better than anyone on the roster. While his NFL career may not have been as glowing as he'd like, nothing like being a system QB- then having the guy who invented the System becoming your boss, for 2-3 games he might be really good.


Best depth: AFC I choose New England. I say this even though they did pick up Tebow. I am not a Tebow lover or hater. He has proven he can do things in the backfield to help a team win. I still believe as well that Ryan Mallet can and will be a starter some day. I feel the upside to his talents coupled to the fact he is learning behind one of the best in the league will only make him better. I do not see any other team in the AFC that has better depth at the QB position FOR THIS SEASON.

Worst: NFC, I feel that belongs to Atlanta. IF Ryan goes down they have 3 guys on their roster that have NEVER played in a regular season game. I have heard of one of them; Seth Doege from Texas Tech. There are way too many uncertainties in the Falcons backfield to even think that either of Ryan???s backups can lead the Falcons to and through the playoffs if something were to happen to Matt.

For the AFC I select Denver as having the worst depth at QB. Having a HOF as your #1 might seem like a poor selection but I feel Petyon is one hit shy of being done. . IF that happens they have no answer. It will probably be one of those situations where they look to make a trade. Current roster sucks.


Best?

I will take Indy.

Not only is Andrew Luck HUGE and able to take quite a lick, but his backup, Matt Hasselbeck, has thrown over 200 TDs, completed over 60% of his passes, and his ratio in the playoffs is 18 TDs to 9 Picks, not to mention his Super Bowl starting gig. Not many QBs have that behind them.

Worst: NFC- Dallas

Why?

Because he can't beat out ROMO!

Ok, sorry, you said playoff contender.

I'm going with Green Bay.

Graham Harrell spend 2 years on the practice squad and has 4 more passes in the NFL than 1 do, plus he's been a turnover machine in the playoffs. Fun Fact: GH is ALSO from Texas Tech, so we are both taking system QBs from a school that has done little to make SB QBs in the NFL. In the time it took you to read this, he's already dropped the remote, his playbook and fell off the couch.

AFC: Baltimore.

The number 2 guy is Tyrod Taylor, who has been in the NFL 3 years- his first 2 years spent throwing ONE PASS INTO THE STANDS. The following year doing a good half of work, with a 0 to 1 TD/INT ratio

Of course, he has to beat out Calib Hanie - 6 years, 3 TDs 10 picks.


Worst First:

I question the GB pick simply because they DO HAVE guys that have been on the field during the regular season and know the speed at which it's played. Atlanta's backups have not experienced that yet. None of Atlanta's backups have felt the full pressure given to an NFL QB during a regular season game. And to be in that position on a team expected to make not only a run at the playoffs but a serious SB contender going into the season, that is asking way too much. And, the 1st Backup position in GB has not been settled. Vince Young is actually making a very good case for himself as the #2 guy in GB.

It is a given the efficiency of the backup QBs at Baltimore is not that great, I will still take them over guys that have never stepped onto the field. I personally feel Flacco is more durable going into this season than Manning and I also feel his backups are closer to being game ready than the 3 Backups on Denver's roster that have a combined 4 passes in competition.

Best: I can see why you chose Indy given they have Hasselbeck. He is a journeyman that has filled in nicely from time to time. However, I still believe Mallet and/or Tebow is ready to step up.

GL


Vince Young? The main problem I have with him is he is a totally different guy than the other 2 QBs on the roster, and wasn't exactly in demand to begin with.

If all you need is experience, then why isn't Jeff George still in the league?

I really can't fault with the ATL pick, and pretty much for the same reason that I have Baltimore on my list.

What I do have an issue with is the Pats Pick.

I understand Tebow did just as good in Denver as Peyton did, but he's still Tebow. If Brady goes down, I don't think he's going to win 11 games like Cassel did. I do think Ryan Mallet has potential, but lets be honest, he has looked like POO this preseason. I just do not think that Mallet is ready to take the field long term and Tebow is not even close to being able to take over any offense that requires the precision that the Pats offense does.

I do love Tebow the person, but lets be honest- When it comes to precision, The man makes a junkie with touretts looks like Batman.

Comment #1 has been removed
August 19, 2013  11:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

if i was better enlightened on the nfl I would accept this but it is not in my wheelhouse.

Perhaps someone will TD about garden hoses, cabbages, and geese.

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August 19, 2013  11:43 AM ET

You lost me OTD after you mentioned Browns and making the playoffs in the same sentence. Heck...Browns and playoffs in the same argument is enough to confuse me all to pieces.... ;^D

August 19, 2013  11:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Perhaps someone will TD about garden hoses, cabbages, and geese.

Don't forget bracelets.....

August 19, 2013  12:18 PM ET

Packers may just have the worst. They are an Aaron Rodgers bump to the head away from a 4-12 season.

August 19, 2013  03:49 PM ET

Good to see 7#bag take this. He and I are friends enough we can curse each other at leisure.....LOL

GL D

August 19, 2013  03:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

You lost me OTD after you mentioned Browns and making the playoffs in the same sentence. Heck...Browns and playoffs in the same argument is enough to confuse me all to pieces.... ;^D

Used them as an example of a team you must justify picking...........

August 19, 2013  03:52 PM ET

This should be an interesting TD.

August 19, 2013  04:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Don't forget bracelets.....

I'm still waiting for mine to arrive in the mail. ;-)

August 19, 2013  10:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Packers may just have the worst. They are an Aaron Rodgers bump to the head away from a 4-12 season.

Nah, BJ Coleman seems like a future all-pro like Matt Flynn turned out to be when he left Green Bay.

August 19, 2013  10:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Perhaps someone will TD about garden hoses, cabbages, and geese.

LOL! We both know someone already has!

August 20, 2013  12:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Nah, BJ Coleman seems like a future all-pro like Matt Flynn turned out to be when he left Green Bay.

Hehe.

August 20, 2013  12:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Hehe.

Chances are he won't win the starting job from Pryor or McGloin!

August 20, 2013  12:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Chances are he won't win the starting job from Pryor or McGloin!

Good Lord... the Raiders drafted Matt McGloin? Like, THE Matt McGloin, former Nittany Lion?

Somehow I missed that. And that kid was not a good college QB. I'm surprised he was drafted at all, assuming he wasn't a UFA.

August 20, 2013  12:24 AM ET

Just looked it up and McGloin was a UFA. I guess that's a little more understandable, but still. He wasn't a good player.

August 20, 2013  12:29 AM ET
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Just looked it up and McGloin was a UFA. I guess that's a little more understandable, but still. He wasn't a good player.

Yeah, he went undrafted, and undrafted QBs got scooped up pretty quick. I would personally look for a cheap backup instead of a rookie... You already have a young Terrelle Pryor, and a guy who SHOULD be your starter, but are quickly realizing he can't do much more than lob a football.

August 20, 2013  12:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Yeah, he went undrafted, and undrafted QBs got scooped up pretty quick. I would personally look for a cheap backup instead of a rookie... You already have a young Terrelle Pryor, and a guy who SHOULD be your starter, but are quickly realizing he can't do much more than lob a football.

Reasonable game plan, in my opinion.

Maybe the Raiders should've held on to Carson Palmer after all...

August 20, 2013  12:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Good Lord... the Raiders drafted Matt McGloin? Like, THE Matt McGloin, former Nittany Lion?Somehow I missed that. And that kid was not a good college QB. I'm surprised he was drafted at all, assuming he wasn't a UFA.

Undrafted free agent.

 
August 20, 2013  01:12 AM ET
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Reasonable game plan, in my opinion.Maybe the Raiders should've held on to Carson Palmer after all...

I think his time with the Raiders was up... they were going nowhere fast regardless of who was QB. Yeah, they started 4-2 when Campbell was the starter, but times are different and the Raiders' #1 receiver on their depth chart is quite possibly Brice Butler...

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