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  • 09/23/2013, 01:07PM ET

Individual Offensive Performance is Predictable When it Comes to Weather and Money.

Atro SYB (6-4-1) vs On_Wisconsin (2-0-0)
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Professional baseball players' offensive performance can be predicted by time of year and contract status. I can prove it. Can you shoot down this theory?


I dont know why you would put your theory in your first argument, but here is my take. If it was so predictable what people would do because of weather and money you should be a GM. I really cant shoot down your theory until you tell me your theory.


I'm a little perplexed. You obviously saw that I put my theory in my first argument, and now you want, as a rebuttal, for me to tell you my theory again. Fair enough.

"Professional baseball players' offensive performance can be predicted by time of year and contract status."

With all due respect, you have wasted your first argument by asking me to repeat my first argument, without taking the opportunity to disprove it in any aspect. You have two arguments left, with my theory still standing unrefuted.


How so? you have given no proof to prove your argument if you want to call it that. "Professional baseball players offensive performance can be predicted by time of year and contract status." So what, you made a statement, where is your proof to this. My response to you that all offensive numbers can be predicted by time of year and contract status would be, A-Rod would have never got the contract he did that a few years into his contract he starts to fade and get injured as one example. But once again you need to expand on your "Theory" If you want me to shoot it down. Because right now its just a statement with no proof.


Can't understand your 2nd argument. I will respond to the 1 intelligible portion, which reads "... you need to expand on your "Theory" if you want me to shoot it down:"

Morneau - 76 avg OPS+ from 03 to 05, never having achieved over 122 in any 1 of those seasons. Contract yr: 06. 2006 OPS+: 140. MVP, Gets 80 mil contract. Then: An avg TB from 07 to 12 of 226, and a 2013 231 TB with a week to go, this year being a contract yr. Please explain that without factoring in contract yr status.

Venable - a 6 yr career .2395 BA from APR through JUL (round that up to .240). A 6 yr .306 career BA in AUG, and a career .251 BA in SEP. Please explain that without factoring in time of yr/weather.

Lind - (Perhaps the most crystallizing example of both contract year status and time of yr/weather): Career BA APR - MAY: .256; career BA in JUN .284; Career BA in JUL - AUG .265; career BA in SEP .284. Career-wise, Lind has shown an increase in BA in JUN and SEP, In his contract year, there is a .050 increase in BA in APR-MAY, an .066 increase in BA in JUN, and a ,007 increase in BA thus far in SEP. Please explain without factoring in time of year/weather and contract status.

September 23, 2013  02:54 PM ET

Basically... nobody has argued anything to this point.

September 23, 2013  03:00 PM ET

there is nothing to argue to this point, he hasn't said anything. I dont even know if he has anything to back up his assumption

September 23, 2013  03:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

there is nothing to argue to this point, he hasn't said anything. I dont even know if he has anything to back up his assumption

Even if he did, it would take more than 1000 characters to explain it... Unless it is written by a 3rd grader or high school girl text message code.

September 23, 2013  03:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Basically... nobody has argued anything to this point.

Indeed.

Perplexing.

September 23, 2013  03:53 PM ET
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Even if he did, it would take more than 1000 characters to explain it... Unless it is written by a 3rd grader or high school girl text message code.

I'll bet every high school girl in America could condense War and Peace to fit in a tweet.

Chicks have testing skills. It may be a useless skill set but it's very real.

I am the complete opposite. I'm long winded. It can take me several hundred characters just to say, "hello, how are you" sometimes.

September 23, 2013  06:57 PM ET

is this guy for real? He give me three examples when there are hundreds of players Ill list off lots of players that had bad contract years

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September 23, 2013  08:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Basically... nobody has argued anything to this point.

LOL!

September 23, 2013  10:36 PM ET

"Professional baseball players' offensive performance can be predicted by time of year and contract status. I can prove it. Can you shoot down this theory?"

Atro, your opening argument looks more like a T&R article than a debate. Your subsequent number crunching of 3 out of a several hundred players has only proved your theory to be quite miniscule.

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September 24, 2013  07:43 PM ET

Right has blatantly disregarded the clock and has failed to make his third argument within 24 hours. A vote left is a vote for integrity, as ironic as that may seem.

September 24, 2013  08:12 PM ET
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Really? If you can list me just ONE hundred players who were in a contract year, I'll send you fifty bucks.

Understood.

September 25, 2013  10:28 AM ET

Is the argument that guys play better in contract years? That is not a new or original idea it's a pretty proven idea. Is it an exact science, no, but guys do tend to outplay themselves to get paid.

September 25, 2013  10:59 PM ET

So long Mariano Rivera and #42. It had to end some where. What an outstanding career.

 
September 26, 2013  08:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Really? If you can list me just ONE hundred players who were in a contract year, I'll send you fifty bucks.

Is that open for all of us????? ;^)

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