- 10/14/2013, 04:52PM ET
Marlins Fan said 10/14, 04:52 PM
You guys will probably brand me a homer (and to a certain extent I undoubtedly am) but I'm going with Florida State vs. Oregon as my choices for the final BCS National Championship game.
Now to be fair, FSU could just as easily be replaced by Clemson, but those two teams play each other this weekend and I am anticipating the Seminoles to come out on top. Clemson is probably just as good on offense as Florida State but I prefer the Seminoles' defense and I trust Jimbo Fisher a little more than Dank Swinney to come up with a competitive game plan.
The winner of Clemson-FSU has a great shot at the NC game. The remaining schedules for both teams are pretty easy and with their current places as top 5 teams it's not a stretch at all to see the winner being undefeated and ranked first or second by year's end.
Oregon, too, has the right combination of a lofty ranking (#2) and a fairly easy remaining schedule (the only tough game remaining is Stanford, who was just exposed by unranked Utah, and then the PAC-12 championship) which should make a NC berth a probable destination for the Ducks.
Fittingly, no SEC teams in the final BCS championship game.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/14, 05:24 PM
Let us take a look at two programs that are not only ranked at the top, but also more likely to end up in the BCS Title game.
In one corner, we have a team that features a coach with multiple national titles, albeit not at his current school. His team has won 18 straight games, their last loss dating back to January of 2011, which predated the current coaches tenure. His offense has never scored fewer than 30 points and topped the 50-point plateau twice this season. This team is THE Ohio State Buckeyes
Standing across from them is a national powerhouse by every definition possible. They themselves are undefeated this season and, dating back to the 2011 season, are 31-2. They are an SEC school, and they have only truly been tested once this year. Their average margin of victory is a whopping 27.5 points a game, despite just a 7-point victory earlier this year. They are back-to-back national champions and show no signs of slowing down. They are the Alabama Crimson Tide
At kick-off in the Rose Bowl on January 6th, we will have the battle of scarlet vs. crimson.
Marlins Fan said 10/15, 12:23 AM
Alabama sits in the pole position as we speak but they also would seem to have the toughest remaining schedule. Besides upcoming rivalry games against Arkansas, Tennessee, LSU, Mississippi State, and Auburn, the Tide would also presumably have to play the SEC title game, which would theoretically pit then against Missouri, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, whoever wins the SEC East.
I don't think the Crimson Tide are good enough to win all those games. Alabama currently ranks 44th in yards per game and 23rd in points per game. The rushing game, usually a dominant force Saban relies on, is just 50th in the nation at 188 yards per game. Gone are the days of running all over opponents for 300 yards per game. Alabama's offense has tried becoming something of a more traditional passing attack and frankly they don't have the personnel to dominate, demoralize, and intimidate like they used to.
Their defense has been good this year but then again Alabama has hardly played anybody of note yet. The only team worth mentioning to face Alabama this season is Texas A&M, and the Aggies dropped 42 points on the Tide.
Argument against Ohio State next.
Good luck, Rude.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/15, 11:09 PM
Each year, we hear the same old song and dance.
"The SEC is too good this year. There's too many great teams. They can't possibly make it out of their division undefeated. And if they do, they couldn't possibly win the SEC title game too."
Reality check time, folks. How many straight titles are we going to make Alabama win before we give them the respect they deserve?
Oh they had a bad performance against the best football player in the country? Well they still won the game. Year in and year out we doubt them, and year in and year out we're wrong.
Sure, Clemson and FSU battle, but does Clemson's two wins over ranked opponents nullify the rest of a cupcake schedule they've had? What about FSU, who has yet to face a quality opponent (nice try, Maryland)? They still have to travel to Clemson, host Miami, and finish the season @ Florida before the ACC title game.
Meanwhile, Ohio State is running over opponents. With a fairly easy schedule remaining, could you really leave a Buckeye team that hadn't lost in two years out of the BCS Title Game?
Marlins Fan said 10/16, 01:27 AM
You can make as many excuses for Alabama as you like but at the end of the day FSU and Oregon have easier roads to ****. All I'm saying. The Noles and Ducks have easier paths en route to a BCS championship game. But it's slightly narrow minded to assume that since Bama made the title game last year, etc, they'll make it again this year.
Again, this is a different Alabama team. Different players. Different offensive line. And Saban's teams' strengths have always been the offensive line. And the defense has seen a TON of players get drafted to the NFL lately. Different team with different players.
Anyway, Ohio State is even less likely to make the National Championship game. This is a situation where having an easy schedule is harmful, because there is no way on God's green earth that the Buckeyes can leapfrog Bama, Oregon, Clemson, or Florida State assuming the Noles beat Clemson this weekend. It would take all the higher ranked teams losing probably two games, depending on who the losses came against.
Ohio State's schedule is pitiful. Even going undefeated wouldn't put them in the title game over a Bama team that lost to LSU, for example, etc.
Rudedog: Believe The Hype said 10/17, 08:42 PM
Ohio State doesn't have to vault anyone other than Oregon to make the BCS title game.
As is, Ohio State is set up to go undefeated, running their record to 24-0 over two years. Are the pollsters really going to let an Ohio State team that hasn't lost in two years NOT play in the national title game?
For Oregon, they have back-to-back games against top 15 ranked teams in two weeks with UCLA and Stanford. After that, they'll likely face UCLA again in the Pac-12 title game. In comparison to Ohio State, they're far more set up for a loss. They'll have to run the table to stay in contention for the title game.
In the end, both Alabama and Ohio State are set up best to run the table, one with a talented team and the other with an undefeated record. Based on their current poll positions, these two teams seem like the likeliest scenario. Under your scenario, Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State all have to lose with Florida State and Oregon running the table.
Really, which sounds more realistic?
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