- 10/28/2013, 11:05AM ET
PCH said 10/28, 11:05 AM
IF the Heat do get beat, it will be by someone in the EAST.
The Bulls or the Pacers will be the one's to dethrone the champion Heat.
It doesn't take rocket science to know, that the Heat got Greg Oden to fill up the middle for the Roy Hibbert abuse they took last year's playoffs. I do know Greg Oden's had THREE micro fracture surgeries on his knee. Of course he's a big risk, but could be a GREAT reward. The Heat adding weed toting Michael Beasley is a good look. Beasley can fill it up when he wants to. He's more of all around player than Mike Miller, in my opinion. No offense to Mike, he was great.
Derrick Rose is back, of course all basketball fans knows. The youngest MVP to the grace the NBA, is bzzzack. The bull without him last year made it to the 2nd round, and also won the first game against the Heat. Of course they fell, they could hold up. But, with Rose back, this team is super, super scary. Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer, own the rebounds. D-Rose can slash like nobody's business right now, and Luol Deng, Great Britain's Lebron, is truly one of the most underrated players in the game.
J-Business said 10/29, 03:07 PM
For one, I do think the Heat will probably lose in the East.
With that being said, SI's basis for saying they'll be beaten by OKC is because they'll face at least 2 very tough battles in the 2nd rd and the Eastern Conference Finals.
Granted if the Heat are the #1, they'll face either Brooklyn, Indiana or Chicago in the 2nd rd of the playoffs. Just imagine, these are 3 teams who can legitimately beat Miami and it will only be the 2nd rd.
After that, they'll most likely face the #2 or 3 team in the East, also one of those teams.
Chicago, Indiana and Brooklyn all matchup will against Miami and they are also very physical teams. The Heat will be banged up and tired by the Finals and they won't be 100%.
Both series will likely go 6-7 games and as SI noted, the Heat aren't that young anymore and you have to wonder how Dwayne Wade will look going into a Finals matchup against a much younger and very hungry OKC.
At the same time, it's possible that the Heat can beat those teams but how much will they have left over against an OKC, San Antonio or even Houston? Probably not enough.
PCH said 10/29, 04:16 PM
If anything, the Heat will have hella momentum coming into the Finals. We've already seen what the Heat can do to the Thunder. Sure, it's a different year, but not too much of a different team on the Thunder's part. Ibaki is good, but he's not dominant. If his level of play expands, then sure, they have a shot of dethroning the Thunder. Kevin Durant is the 2nd best player In the game, but Lebron's leaps and bounds number 1. Hate it or love it.
I kinda agree with Charles Barkley, I think the Clippers will make their mark this year. I think the whole "Doc Rivers experience" will benefit them greatly. The West is really up for grabs tho..
Back to the Rockets, I can't believe you even mentioned them in the same breathe as the Heat in the finals. Sure, they got the best center in league, or should I say, biggest cry baby. He's cried his way outta L.A. and Orlando, and if he was shot back to the 90's, he wouldn't even be a top 5 center. Jeremy Lin running point won't work. He's "okay" at everything, like S.I. stated, but he's not going to take that team to the promise land, even if they have Harden and Dwight.
J-Business said 10/30, 04:56 PM
Most likely, any team the Heat face in the Finals will be younger and also have a distinct matchup advantage over them.
OKC lost to the Heat two yrs ago but it should be remembered that all of those games were by a few points.
Durant has shown that he can match LeBron point for point and Westbrook could not be guarded. The Heat are not the same team they were 2 yrs ago and the wear and tear of another season and a very tough East will take it's toll.
You're laughing at Houston but they have a very good team and potentially great matchup against Miami. If you notice, the Heat are very weak at center and while Dwight Howard may whine, he's still a top 3 player at the position.
The Clippers are young, have a great pg, good bench and great coach. They can challenge Miami at almost every position and will be more focused this yr.
With San Antonio, we've seen they can hang with Miami and they should have won in Game 6 last yr. This time around, I think they'll close them out.
Miami is good but they're older, more banged up and as Magic Johnson said, the league has caught up with them.
PCH said 10/30, 07:04 PM
Let me go with my GUT...
the HEAT won't be BEAT..
I said, "IF", in bold, up top.
The Pacers and Bulls have a better chance than anybody in the WEST, all I was saying..
The Heat are old and banged up.. Yeah, you keep thinking that..
The Heat have the BEST d in the league.. Transition offense, whoa nellies.
Yes, I'm still laughing @ Houston.. While you said Dwight's top 3 at the position of center, I think he's undeniably #1, J bidnessssss..
The reason for this td, I don't think the Thunder will beat them..
Juwan Howard's off the team, or at least I hope he is, so who's old?
shane Battier & Ray Allen, who will stroke in your [b]eye[b], fun boy...
The Heat won't get beat by the Thunder, wouldn't be real surprised if they didn't make it to the Finals... No offense to the Thunder fans, they're a top 5 team in the league...
J-Business said 10/31, 02:54 PM
Listen to what you're saying. If both the Bulls and Pacers have the potential to beat Miami and it's very likely that the Heat may have to play both teams in the playoffs, the question remains, how much will they have left?
I know we don't like to use specific games as examples, but last night's Heat-Sixers matchup shows how vulnerable Miami is without one of their top players.
Granted the Sixers may have been a bit excited and caught the Heat off guard, but what we know is that Ray Allen is good but he's no replacement for Wade and the rest of the team are still waiting for LeBron to just make something happen.
So if by your assertion that they may not even make it to the Finals, if they do make it, more than likely they'll be facing one of the other top 5 teams in the NBA.
OKC has the scoring, the length and the defense.
San Antonio has the defense, the length and are well coached
The Clippers have the depth and big match up problems for Miami
Houston has the scoring and they also have a big disadvantage at Miami's biggest weakness.
If Miami does make it to the Finals, they lose to a Western Conf team
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