- 10/29/2013, 07:28PM ET
guintz said 10/29, 07:28 PM
I don't see anyone in the 'zone' going far, but at least Carolina has possibilities. A solid defense-even with a crippled secondary, running game which can only get better if stewart comes back, and a dynamic qb.
That should leave whoever takes this enough has wiggle room.
kalbrecht17 said 10/29, 11:24 PM
you don't even have one of the top 3
they're all better options. I mean yeah Carolina's defense and ground and pound the ball are fine and all, but their 4 wins have come against MN, NYG, STL, and TB who have a combined record of 6-24. they have their moments where they look really good, but also look pretty awful at times. also they won't beat NO for the division so they have to get a wild card over the 2 losers out of GB, Det, and Chi plus the loser out of SF and Sea. In addition, the Cards (who hold a tiebreaker over Car) also could knock them out of the last spot. All in all its not even close that Car is not the team, but if you were meaning something different, then i'll gladly handle that and we can try this over. but as it stands now, its not even close.
(if you're just talking in the NFC, then i'll take Dallas who should make the playoffs and thus go further than Car.)
guintz said 10/30, 05:26 PM
Arizona will be eliminated as a playoff contender due to schedule and lack of a qb (not enough playmakers to make even trent dilfer look decent).
The only teams that I feel can make a run to the playoffs outside of the current div leaders Chicago and SF/Sea runner up. I think the Lions find a way to win the north and GB broken too much for Rodgers to save them, east only puts 1 team, and this leaves us the cardinals/panther debate.
I'll give you cincy to host a game-and possibly best team eastern of mississippi, patriots are not the team they once were (will div by default), and Indy is fairy dust.
Dallas is not in EST
kalbrecht17 said 10/30, 06:53 PM
Dal was put in if you meant east div.
Why Carolina's a bad choice:
1. Right now on the outside looking in. they are behind NO a full 2 GB and have to play them twice. and that's not a good matchup for Car as NO is going to throw on them all day with their, as you proclaim, crippled secondary. They also have 2 game vs Atl which will be a desperate team and i'd see them doing no better than a split especially with Roddy getting healthier. they also have SF on the road and play NE and Miami. Not the easiest schedule when you see they have to keep pace with the teams they do. Chi has MN, Cle, Stl, and Phi on the schedule (which should be wins for them), Det has Pitt TB Phi and NYG, and Ari has Hou, Jax, Phi, Stl, and Ten. The road is easier for WC berth for them. GB plays MN, Phi, NYG, and Pitt for 4 more wins already putting them at 9. if they split the rest, they're at 11 wins and in. I see Car at 8-8 and no way in the playoffs.
2. Car hasn't beaten anyone of note. As i said before, their victories are over teams a combined 6-24.
3. There's no threat opposite Steve Smith. teams will load the box and stop the ground game too often and the passing game isn't there yet
guintz said 10/30, 08:00 PM
panthers have a good history again the saints, so splitting is very possible at worst and the remainder of their schedule is navigable:
Split with NO, ATl
Beat jets, TB, Miami...split with SF and NE
regardless of who that have beaten, it boils down to making a run, and they are primed to do it. They will be a 5 or 6 seed traveling to Detroit or Dallas and both are very winnable.
You took the easy route with guaranteed playoff teams, but KC beats NE in Foxboro, Indy loses to Baltimore, Cincy loses to either KC or Denver in the 2nd round, and so the only debate is if Carolina can win a playoff game. You will argue that the panthers can't get there, but I don't see anyone from the Norris division surviving.
kalbrecht17 said 11/02, 01:21 PM
Alright all in all, any of the 3 I put are better choices and here's why.
First they're all going to make the playoffs. looking at Carolina, I just don't think they're there yet. They're still too one dimensional ranking 29th in passing offense, and it's not like they're just rolling up tons of rush yards to counter that as they are only 8th in the league in rushing.
second, in the playoffs, one is going to get a bye and one is going to draw a relatively weak 6 seed in the first round, so 2 of them should be advancing to the the divisional round of the playoffs (I'm not going to try say one of them could beat kc or denver, i just can't see that right now)
third, carolina, if they somehow get to the playoffs as a 3 or 6 seed (they'll either be ahead of the East winner or in as the last wild card behind SF or Sea), they are going to have to match up with a team that throws the ball heavily GB, Det, or NO and that doesn't match up well with what they do on D.
Overall I don't see them making the playoffs and even if they do, they're out in the wild card round
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