- 11/15/2013, 04:25PM ET
Marlins Fan said 11/16, 02:21 AM
The Chiefs are really good at defense; The Broncos are really good at offense. If we simplify things we can look at this game as a battle (or war, if you're HCF) between KC's defense and Denver's offense.
The Chiefs aren't winning that debate. It's hard to compare a given offense to a defense in general, but when the offense has Peyton Manning we have a tendency to automatically give the offense the benefit of the doubt, particularly when the defense isn't chock full of HoF-bound household names.
Fortunately for the Chiefs this game is not as simple as their defense vs. Peyton and the Broncos' offense. This game is the team from KC against the team from Denver, and when you acknowledge that fact you can see this matchup under a different light.
So let's talk about something else. Let's talk about an experienced HC in Andy Reid, a borderline MVP candidate in RB Jamall Charles, a great run-blocking Chiefs' offensive line, and a Denver rush defense that hasn't been tested all season because everyone has tried to outscore Peyton.
I think Reid is smart enough to play to his teams' strengths and run, run, run, keeping Peyton on the sidelines.
DJ: Loyal Lakers fan said 11/16, 10:57 AM
You are correct, this is a team game but Manning is a huge reason they are as good as they are. Brock Osweiler? Manning is the difference between Denver being 8-1 and probably, 3-6 if Osweiler was the quarterback. And that might be me being very generous.
You don't just replace a career-high 71%, 352.3ypg, 33 TD's to just 6 INT's, 8.8ypa, and a 121 Passer Rating. These are on pace to be some record numbers in a long and distinguished career for Mr. Manning.
Oh, probably the most impressive number he has? Manning and the Broncos are 1st on 3rd down efficiency (49.5%).
Alex Smith and Kansas City are 23rd (36%).
He's a game manager, he's good at not making mistakes. Don't get me wrong, he's a solid/good player, but he doesn't make plays to help you win the game
Haven't been tested all season? Last week, the Redskins were limited to 112 yards on 28 carries. Alfred Morris and RGIII are a good 1-2 punch that can run. They are allowing just 3.4 yards per carry on the season.
Jack Del Rio is a solid replacement for John Fox while he recovers from surgery on his heart.
Good luck on Sunday. #DJgetsrevengeintheFFrematch
Marlins Fan said 11/17, 01:48 AM
The Broncos have an all time great QB in Peyton; I'm obviously not even gonna try and dispute that. But although Denver's passing game is beyond reproach there isn't much else you can say about the team.
Denver isn't an overly impressive running team. As of right now they're 20th in the NFL in rushing. Denver doesn't even use much of their running game until Peyton and the receivers have already built up a big lead. Not saying they can't run; just saying it's not really a focal point of their offense until the third or fourth quarter.
Defensively they can't do anything right. (They're good statistically against the run... because teams don't run on them, usually) They can't stop the pass worth a ****.
Here's where KC starts looking like a better team.
KC is, like Denver, one of the least rushed against teams. Unlike Denver, though, KC is actually really good against the pass, ranking as a top 6 pass defense in the NFL despite facing a heavy dose of passing every Sunday. Denver also faces a lot of pass plays but they can't stop any of them.
To recap, KC can run all day and Denver isn't experienced against the run, while Denver can pass but pass D is KC's strength.
DJ: Loyal Lakers fan said 11/17, 10:32 AM
Denver is allowing just 87 yards per game, 4th best in the League. And just 3.4 yards per carry. I'd say 227 attempts is experienced.
KC isn't that great at running the ball: 119ypg, 12th is just a few spots away from being mediocre. 4.2ypc is tied with the Jets for 14th. Their longest run is a whopping 24 yards.
Their pass defense isn't very good but Alex Smith isn't very good either. They have won all their games, but lets be real for a second. He's the classic definition of a game manager, he doesn't make mistakes. But, he can't win a game for you either. Lets look at his performance this year, shall we?
60%, 198ypg, 6ypa, 9 TD's and 4 INT's with an 81.4 Passer Rating
Von Miller has only been back for the last 3 games and the defense is slowly returning to form.
228 passing yards to the Colts
154 yards to the Redskins
218 yards to the Chargers
The pass defense is starting to come around. And Von Miller is a huge reason for that. He only has 2 sacks so far but he and the Denver defense get pressure on the quarterback, forcing them to rush their passes.
That's the combined record of teams they have faced.
Marlins Fan said 11/17, 02:12 PM
Yeah, Denver ranks well against the run. Until you figure out that they're near last in total carries against, no doubt because teams always have to pass, pass, pass when playing against Peyton. Generally speaking so far this year the Broncos have been able to neutralize the opposing teams' defense and running game by piling up points with quickness and ease.
Wont work against KC, a fundamentally sound defensive team with enough athletes and studs to disrupt an offense even as well-oiled as Denver's. As I alluded to earlier, I believe Andy Reid will sic his defense on Denver and prevent the Broncos from rapidly accumulating touchdowns. Also KC will run the ball effectively and limit Alex Smith's opportunities for error.
Let's not kid ourselves; Denver's pass D is atrocious. They're 30th in the NFL, ahead of only Philly and Dallas, who are both on pace to set the new NFL record for pass yards allowed. Even Alex Smith can find holes in Denver's Swiss cheese secondary.
Nice stat about KC's record but it's virtually the same schedule Denver has played. Combined record of Denver's opponents:
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