- 12/07/2013, 06:44PM ET
bostongm 39-22 said 12/07, 06:44 PM
He's just a power play specialist..there's far more deserving D-Men out there that are more well rounded then him...Team Canada needs players that are well rounded not just 1 way players.
Example: Mike Green was left off the last Team Canada cause he sucks defensively...so this is essence Mike Green part 2...except its PK Subban.
The dude is ranked 6th on his own team in Penalty Kill minutes and is often left sitting on the bench in the last 2 minutes of games in which is team is leading.
What does that tell you ??
Yup the coaching staff simply do NOT trust him to defend...he's good offensively yes but does NOT play a well rounded game.
TOO BAD, SUBBAN, BEAT IT.
Argos. said 12/08, 09:40 AM
Team Canada takes 8 defenseman to Sochi, due to the bigger Olympic rosters. Name me the 8 Canadians better? You cannot, because there isn't
Even if PK were simply just a powerplay specialist, which he is not, why would you not carry him on your team to anchor your PP? With 7-8 D-men dressed (depending on what Canada decides to do), you can afford to dress a specialty player, and only play him in those specialty situations
If you are up a goal or two, keep him on the bench and just rotate your top 4 out there. But you wouldn't have to, cause Subban is pretty solid defensively
Be it down a goal late in a game, or on the PP, there are very few players that can create the offense that PK creates from the backend
He has the highest Corsi rating among Canadian D-men in the league!
Add in the fact that the game is being played on the big ice surface, and PK should be a lock. His skating ability is exceptional, and if the past Olympics have taught Canada anything, on the international ice, you need d-men who can skate and move the puck
The man won the freaking Norris last season, as the leagues best defenseman, he is no slouch and should make the team
bostongm 39-22 said 12/08, 04:45 PM
Name 8 better D-Men ?? Ok.
ALL these D-Men are better then that power play specialist and all bring more to the table than the 1 way Subban. The fact is the brass is legitimately debating whether to bring him in or not. Its creating debate across the country cause people see what Subban really is..a power play specialist and not much else.
And NO..i dont want ANY specialty players..i want well rounded players on my team....
Scenario...Team Canada's playing the US and the US dont commit any penalties during that game.....thus stapling the 1 way Subban to the bench.....do you seriously want a specialty player taking the spot of a true D-Man that plays well in ALL situations ??
You want D-Men to take care of their OWN end first before worrying about the offense...the forwards are taught that too..to take care of their own end first...why should the power play specialist be given any favours ??
STAY HOME, SUBBAN.
Argos. said 12/09, 09:44 AM
Only the top four defenseman you named are better, and they will be the four carrying the bulk of the load for Canada.
You claim Subban is terrible defensively, but I guess you have never watched Letang before? Letang is not as good offensively, and perhaps the worst defenseman in his own end.
Seabrook has regressed and slowed down in recent years. Boyle is no longer as good as he once was. Bouwemeester isn't as good, but he will make the team cause he is so good with Pietrangelo.
You don't want specialist players, but what about Patrice Bergeron? He was on the 2010 Gold Medal winning team, and averaged 6 minutes a game. And that 6 minute number was inflated due to playing larger minutes in garbage time of blowouts (13 minutes in a 8-0 win over Norway). In the gold medal game, that went to OT, he only played 3 minutes. Bergeron was a specialist, for defensive zone faceoffs and the some penalty kill time. And with the larger rosters, they are able to carry a specialist like him, and put him in a role to succeed, and not have to play him much. They can do the same with Subban.
And there has probably never ever been an international game with no penalties called.
bostongm 39-22 said 12/10, 07:18 PM
The FACT is Team Canada will medal if the 1 way power play specialist stays home...if he somehow miraculously makes it on the team Team Canada is DOOMED...i said it here 1st...the guys terrible defensively and takes dumb a__ss penalties at the worst times. Team Canada doesnt need a hot head that cant control himself..Team Canada needs players that know their role and players that play with DISCIPLINE...not ones looking for the big hit and failing and missing badly at it.
Thats pretty much it...Team Canada simply DOES NOT NEED PK Subban.
Argos. said 12/11, 08:08 AM
Can your crystal ball also give me next week's winning lottery tickets?
The fact that you say that Canada will medal without him, and wont with him, is pure stupidity.
PK is more than a powerplay specialist. He didn't win the Norris last year, as best defenseman, for the fact that he is one-dimensional. He can create offense 5-on-5 as well, which is key when you are losing (cause you know, the point of the game is to score more than the other team). He is extremely physical. He provides a spark or energy, that is always a plus. He has represented Canada at numerous other levels, and won Golds.
He is the best skating defenseman Canada has, which is key on the big ice. Not to mention he has a great ability for the stretch pass, which is another key on the big ice, and has haunted Canada in previous Olympics on international ice. He is great at moving the puck up, and getting it to the forwards.
It would be pure stupidity to leave him off the team. He is clearly one of the best Canada has, and deserves a spot on the roster.
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