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  • 02/13/2014, 08:05PM ET

NBA Mount Rushmore

Darth Maim (76-21-7) vs And the Prophecy Read (42-14-5)
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Recently LeBron James stated that he will be one of the best players of all time and will be on the NBA's Mount Rushmore. Here are my selections:


Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlin
Bill Russell
Oscar Robertson




Disagree? Then Throwdown!!


Lebron has to be on the list. Right now in his career he has a argument to be made to be included. If you think about how much more basketball he has left to play I don't think there is any question he belongs. I'm not a Lebron fan by any means but when his career is over there may not be anyone better.

Lebron over Wilt. Lebron off the court is also a much better ambassador to the NBA then Wilt. Wilts greatest accomplishments off the court include banging many many women.


Jordan of course has to be on.


Russell was one I haven't seen many others include but he was one of the first I thought of when I saw the thing on ESPN the other day. How you can't include someone with his championships and all that is silly.


While i've always liked Oscar he is the other i'll change. I'll go ahead and include Magic. Magic is still very much so involved in the NBA to this day. Really you can't go wrong with either and I would also like to include Larry Bird but I can't justify two Celtics on the list.


So Magic over Oscar.
Lebron over Wilt.


Hey FN...glad to be back. Fighting an uphill 0-5 score, but will try to bring my "A" game!
Oscar over Magic:

Oscar Robertson

14 Seasons
12 x All-Star
11 x All-NBA
NCAA and NBA Hall-of-Famer
1961 ROY
1964 MVP


Robertson had to deal with overt racism as he embarked on his NBA career. He overcame this cultural gauntlet to win the ROY award with a stat line of:

30.5 points/game (still an NBA rookie record)
10.1 rebounds
9.7 assists

He almost averaged a triple/double his entire rookie season! And his next season he did produce a season long triple double.

30.8
12.5
10.1

In fact the averages for his first 5 NBA seasons were:

30.3
10.4
10.6

And in addition to being the ULTIMATE triple threat on the floor, he became the NBA Players Association President. His name was on the anti-trust suit concerning the draft, free agency, and the NBA/ABA merger. The suit was settled and and the Oscar Robertson suit encouraged signing of more free agents and eventually led to higher salaries for all players.

So Oscar belongs due to his contributions on and off the court.....


Since you talk about votes I will as well. Nice pick up of 4 votes. Those are some really well known people voting your way. Some real winners like the dude thats been around since 09 and has 45 total comments. Glad he found his way back to the site he once loved.



Anywho I want to say I dropped the ball. I should have used Larry Bird instead of Russel especially since I included Magic. You can't have Magic without Bird I messed that up.



At this point in time Lebron has accomplished a ton. The scary thing is he still has a ton of basketball to play. If Lebron played in Oscars time he'd average 40 20 and 10 easy. The dude is a athletic freak that could play any position.

Lebron is a global commodity at this point. By the end of his career his accomplishments will cement his place on this list.



Oscar Robertson is a great player but not someone who is one of the faces of basketball. While I can't knock his stats and accomplishments he just isn't one of the top 4 to represent the NBA. I'm gambling on Lebrons future but its a pretty safe bet. On and off the court Lebron currently is the NBA. He's so good people love to hate him.


Wilt over LeBron:


While it is true that LeBron is special and will most likely eventually be one of the best 4 players to ever play, Wilt is in a league by himself.

Let's look at some of his accomplishments:

Seasonal

1) 11 x rebounding leader
2) 7x scoring champion
3) 1 x assists leader
4) 4 x NBA MVP
5) 2 x defensive team

Career

1) NBA rebounding leader
2) 2nd all-time scoring average
3) Number retired by 3 different teams


And while numbers don't tell the whole story, they sure don't lie. Wilt holds the records for:

1) Most points per game/season (50.4)..he owns the 3 highest in league history
2) Most points in a season (4029)...he owns the 2 most
3) Most points in a game and most points in a half
4) Most points in a game by a rookie (37.6) and points (2707)
5) Oldest player to score 60 points in a game
6) Most rebounds(23924) and highest/game (22.9)

If fact he has 71 records and 62 of them he doesn't share with any other player.


So LeBron will most likely be on the Mount Rushmore on the NBA someday, it isn't today!


Cm'on man I know you'r better than this. Going to try to win this with possibly two of the most inflated stats for NBA players in the history of the NBA? Wilt and Oscar would be just good players this day. Possibly even great but they were ahead of their time. You can't honestly believe that these stats deserve them to be up there. Sure they look great but everyone knows how inflated they are.



Lebron and Magic could do anything on the court and do everything off the court the NBA asks. They are two lifelong ambassadors of the game and are recognized as such world wide. Oscar retired and left quietly and Wilt did the same minus all the women.



Nothing but disease could stop Magic and Magic remained positive and continues to work for the game of basketball. Nothing yet has stopped Lebron and i'm not sure if there is anyone or anything that will stop him. Its crazy to think how many more titles he can win.

February 13, 2014  08:17 PM ET

Just read the other TD's and seems like I have reproduced the TD between 7#bag and Pch. Sorry for the repeat.....

February 13, 2014  10:57 PM ET

i would do this but i wouldnt argue till next week

LeBron > Oscar ....and its not even close

KAJ > Russell : would be interesting

February 13, 2014  11:17 PM ET

If no one takes this by valentines..
I'm in there..

February 13, 2014  11:21 PM ET

You want this to be just players?

February 13, 2014  11:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Just read the other TD's and seems like I have reproduced the TD between 7#bag and Pch. Sorry for the repeat.....

you good.

February 13, 2014  11:45 PM ET

The Big O has got to go.

February 14, 2014  05:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

The Big O has got to go.

I agree. The only reason Lebron likes "O" so much, is because he's had comparisons, especially with LBJ being a triple-double threat, kinda like we all know Oscar was.

February 14, 2014  07:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

You want this to be just players?

Your choice. Best of luck.....

February 14, 2014  12:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

You want this to be just players?

Because you're actually going to post something? How many days are you going to sit on this?

February 14, 2014  12:28 PM ET

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

February 14, 2014  12:30 PM ET

February 14, 2014  12:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Because you're actually going to post something? How many days are you going to sit on this?

+1

February 14, 2014  01:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

The Big O has got to go.

Why, because he played so long ago? The Big O is the only NBAer to average a trip-dub for an entire season, '61-'62. Actually for his first 5 season in the League he averaged 30.3 ppg, 10.4 rebs & 10.6 asts.


Since there are 5 spots on the floor maybe the NBA's version of Mt. Rushmore should have 5 instead of 4?

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February 14, 2014  06:01 PM ET

For me it has to be Jordan, Bird & Magic......the 4'th is tough to pick...Wilt, Russell, Dr. J., Oscar, KAJ.......

Bird AND Magic changed everything for the NBA. One without the other couldn't have done it....Jordan took it to another level.

Wilt was the most dominant force.
Russell the greatest winner.
Dr. J changed the way the game was played.
Oscar was the most complete player (until Magic)
KAJ was a little of all of the previous 4.

February 14, 2014  06:29 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

For me it has to be Jordan, Bird & Magic......the 4'th is tough to pick...Wilt, Russell, Dr. J., Oscar, KAJ.......Bird AND Magic changed everything for the NBA. One without the other couldn't have done it....Jordan took it to another level.Wilt was the most dominant force.Russell the greatest winner.Dr. J changed the way the game was played.Oscar was the most complete player (until Magic)KAJ was a little of all of the previous 4.

Why no Lebron?

February 14, 2014  08:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Why no Lebron?

If it were based on talent alone, I would include him. He just hasn't done enough to be included. By the time he is finished, my guess is it will be him and Jordan...then everyone else.

February 14, 2014  08:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

If it were based on talent alone, I would include him. He just hasn't done enough to be included. By the time he is finished, my guess is it will be him and Jordan...then everyone else.

Yes. Even the Presidents on Rushmore didn't get there until they were out of office...

 
February 14, 2014  08:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

If it were based on talent alone, I would include him. He just hasn't done enough to be included. By the time he is finished, my guess is it will be him and Jordan...then everyone else.

If he were to never play again he would have already accomplished more and had a better career then Oscar

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