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  • November 02, 2007 06:28 PM ET

College Football is becoming more and more like College Basketball.

Anthony E-is out. (10-16-3) vs Steveo16220 is a GGTK (150-37-15)
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With so much talent to go around, and better recruiting, college football is becoming more even keeled... kind of like college basketball. In the NCAA tournament, any team can win, and upsets are expected always. Now just because you are a BCS conference team playing a D-II team doesn't mean you don't have to show up, because they have just as much if not more talent (App. State-Mich.) So I think College Football is becoming basketball...now if only that translated into a playoff.


I'm not sure what you are getting at here with this TD. College football recruiting has always been top notch...i mean just becasue you hear of PROVEN teams always being in the top 25 you dont alway hear about there recruiting season...if you had to guess who was the number 1 recruiting callss this year in college football? ILLINOIS! yeah and they arent anything special. good player but nothing to put them on the map as a proven school in 5 6 7 years....And App. State was a D-1 AA school not a D-II school. And how many other storieS do you hear of a D-1A school losing to a AA school???not that much....check the records before posting them out there. So back to the recruiting...i think it more or less good teams playing worse this year...if you look in the past its really always been a big power house of a BCS Conference to win the BCS Champ game. The no name teams that i think your refereing to this year are still top conference teams...the pool of top conference teams are just getting better.


I think you knew what I meant by D-II... and where is Nebraska, Alabama, Penn State, Notre Dame, Texas A&M now. Stuck in mediocrity even though these storied programs are big time programs they simply have not kept up... South Florida was #2 at one time this season....SOUTH FLORIDA...come on. And actually D-1 AA teams beating D-1A team is very common... it happens almost constantly with smaller D-1 AA teams. Let's just put it this way...Navy lost to D-1 AA Delaware and this week will beat ND....


Penn St st got beat by there own conference...Ohio St (proven school) creamed them Michigan (proven school) creamed them and lost in a 1 touchdown game at Illinois... as far as Texas A&M they lost to Miami who use to be a big power house in the 90???s and they also lost to Texas Tech...that???s right the number 1 offense in the league???which is nothing new to them. Alabama???what about Alabama? They lost to a good Georgia team by a field goal???and beat a good at the time Arkansas team???so they haven???t disappeared these teams???it???s a cycle???were was the sec in the 90???s? it was every other conference except sec???.mainly ACC and big 12???its kind of like a cycle??? and NAVY is independent???not even BCS team???. And that was also only 1 example???there should be many of them to give me if it happens as much as you say it does.
And besides in college basketball there are always those teams that you know every year that will be in the number 1 and 2 spots in every 4 conference of the final four sections???.so no, 1 year of college football having teams being upset to a number of years with minimal upsets doesn???t constitute football becoming like basketball.


I was talking about the programs in recent years not just this year...and Navy is an independent D-1 A school, I never said they were a BCS conference team. And this increase of upsets is not just a one year fluke... it also applies to non BCS conference schools as well. (Boise State-Oklahoma). This trend of these teams getting better and stronger year in and year out will eventually make football's regular season similar to college basketball. It doesn't happen overnight...


Boise St is a BCS conference team!!...you understand that right...? And no it hasn???t be slowly happening...Boise St breaks off with one good season last year in the WAC Conference!!! which has gawd awful teams (don???t say Hawaii b/c they play the same teams Boise St does) but still BCS TEAMS none the less...and take a win on a final play of the bowl game last year...this isn???t a team that will settle in and become a contender every year in college football...I will say on an average of 3 teams every year will look impressive in NCAAF who came out of no where and on the flip side the usual PROVEN teams will dominate.
Anyone can already win the BCS, its just a matter of getting there. Play the dominate teams to get to the title game like OSU did last year by player 2 ranked #2 teams along with 3 other ranked teams in the season! No no name team will do that! I also don???t agree with you TD TITLE saying like college basketball. Everyone can guess the teams that will end up winning it.

November 2, 2007  07:23 PM ET

football will never be like basketball....two different sports....also steveo16220 is right...very predictable and a proven trend of 1,2,3 schools in the final four of basketabll...same with football...im sure everyone could guess 3/4 of the top 25 next season...and that clearly is more than the unknowns that will be on it...

November 2, 2007  07:50 PM ET

Get your conferences right!!!!!!!! Boise State is in the WAC. The BCS conferences are Big Ten, SEC, Pac-10, Big-12, ACC, and Big East. I dont see the WAC on that list.

November 2, 2007  07:53 PM ET

WAC is BCS conference....

November 2, 2007  07:54 PM ET

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfootball/

There you go Anthony look at the freakin BCS homepage....and tell me that WAC Conference isn't part of it.....geezz rookie!

November 2, 2007  07:55 PM ET

you should forfiet just on your idiot knowledge of college football.....

November 2, 2007  08:07 PM ET

im srry, but it never used to be... i am living in the past

November 2, 2007  08:32 PM ET

i believe they have...since 1997 when the bcs was starting out...and then the first rankings in 2003

November 2, 2007  08:55 PM ET

Technically, all div IA schools play in BCS conferences. But WAC is not one of what is commonly known as the six "BCS conferences." When somebody refers to those you know he means the six that get an automatic BCS bid: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and SEC. I'm guessing that's what Anthony meant when he said Boise St was not in a BCS conference.

November 2, 2007  08:58 PM ET

That's why schools like Boise State and Hawaii are called BCS busters, no?

November 2, 2007  09:22 PM ET

I can follow what you mean Anthony, just not sure I but the reasoning.

In college basketball, you just need a handfull of recruits. In football, yu need a lot more.

In college basketball they can start and have an impact year 1. There are some athletes in football that way, but you generally need several years to develop them.

In football any upset is huge because of the limited number of games. in basketball, a lower division team wouldn't matter unless it came in the playoffs.

And there ae 2 other understated reasons for football upsets becoming more frequent (not that the number of top players isn't valid):

1- Offensive and Defensive schemes have come a long way. There are schemes to exploit or cover just about any weakness - not that basketball doesn't have its own ways, but they aren't as elaborate or hard to bust thru as they are in football. (1 of my favorites is watching Army use small man football to compete against some decent teams, using few players that could get a scholarship to any Div I school).

2- Somewhat related to he schemes above - how you match up isn't as obvious in football. In basketball you are looking at a handfull of guys vs. a handfull of guys. In football you may be a better team overall, but if you find yourself with slow coners facing a passing team with blazing speed receivers and a QB with an arm, you may find yourself looking to your offense to put up a lot of points to win the game.

3- Don't discount factors like theweather. If you are a pass first team and you find yourself in swirling gusting 30 MPH winds, you are going to be looking deeper in your playbook. If your team starts in the wrong shoes for the field conditions, you are in for a long half. In basketball, the difference between courts isn't as much.

November 2, 2007  09:24 PM ET

holly cow, I really need to abbreviate more and quit typing just during commercials. Sorry for the lack of brevity dudes (had no idea until I saved)...

 
November 2, 2007  09:55 PM ET

i dont think it is

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