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- November 07, 2007 12:50 AM ET
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Dantheman187 said 11/07, 12:50 AM
Honestly, just looking at the Patriots remaining games, you can't say that any other team has a snowball's chance in hell of stopping them. The Steelers have a great defense, ranked number 1 in the NFL, allowing just 237 yards per game of total offense, and just under 13 points per game. Combine that with the fact that they finally have enough offense to keep pace with other teams, and you've got a team with all the attributes needed to take down the powerhouse Patriots. Now I'm not saying that it's likely that the Steelers will take them down, I'm just saying that out of everyone they have left to play, they have the best shot.
I realize that some people want to bring the Giants into this, but the fact remains that they're an NFC team, so they really don't count.
The Big Cat said 11/07, 12:58 AM
I'm taking this for one reason. On any given Sunday a team "could" beat the Pats. I personally don't think any team will come closer than the Colts just did but that's besides the point. We're getting a bunch of Steeler talk now because of their big win last night against a horrible offensive team, the Ravens. Don'y get me wrong, I like and do think the Steelers are a grea team but they will not beat the Pats during the regular season. The Pats are now on a serious mission. The Colts are behind them. They are going to coast from here. They'll play teams as hard as they have to and they'll win. They may not beat the Steelers by such a large margin but they'll win. I also go back to not discounting any other team. The NFL gets funny over the next several weeks. I believe we will be amazed as to what transpires over the next few weeks (10 - 14).
Dantheman187 said 11/07, 06:34 PM
You have to remember that Indy's defense held the Patriots, who were averaging over 40 points a game, to just 24, and held them to 10 until the 4th quarter. The Colts did the right thing by getting pressure on Brady, and that's really the only way to stop the high powered Patriots offense. If you look at how the Steelers play defense, you'll see that they pride themselves on getting pressure on the QB and forcing him into bad decisions. If they can keep Brady on the run and make him force the issue, they will have a great chance to end the Pats streak, because you know you can't run the ball against the Steelers(One 100yd+ rusher in the last 50+ games).
The Big Cat said 11/07, 09:30 PM
I understand your point. The fact of the matter is that Brady does not make bad decisions. Not one team has been able to put and keep him "on the run." The Pats have shown us all season that they don't need to run the ball so the Steelers being good at stopping the run is not of any importance. If (a big if) the Steelers do start getting to Brady, Maroney has a fresh, healthy well rested pair of legs to do his job. If the Steelers focus on the rush, Brady will throw for TD's all day. The Pats will stop Parker just as other teams have. He may get some yards but he's not scoring, which has really been the Paarker story this year. Even if the Steelers are able to score, Brady and the Pats will score more points and just keep going. Ultimately, the Steelers do not stand in their way. As far as you dismissing NFC teams (i.e. The Giants), that makes no sense to me. Again, any team has a chance but it is highly unlikely. The Colts were the only team that could have stopped them. Can you see the Steelers playing better than the Colts? I can't!
Dantheman187 said 11/07, 11:31 PM
I can see the Steelers playing better than the Colts. The Colts are a finesse team, with little physicality in the way they play. They rely on a speedy defense and good tackling to do well on defense. The Steelers on the other hand have a big, strong, and fast defense. The Steelers linebackers and secondary have played lights out all season, with the exception of the Denver Broncos game. They also don't need to focus on stopping the run, with the 3-4 defense they play, and their nickel package, they can have 7 in the box and still be effective against the run.
Also, the Colts had Brady on the run nearly the entire game, and they made him throw some pretty bad passes. He had two picks in that game, which is over half his total all season, and I'll say that the Colts corners and safeties are not nearly as good as the Steelers. The only x-factor I can see is Wes Welker, because it's hard to keep an eye on him when you're covering Randy Moss and Donte Stallworth on the outside.
Last year the Steelers may have not had the offense to contend, but this year, with Ben playing like a Pro-Bowl QB, and the recievers making plays, I don't see keeping up the pats being a problem.
The Big Cat said 11/07, 11:46 PM
I'll just leave it at this. Look at every game the Pats have played. They just don't have a weakness and "if" a team funds one, the Pats just adjust at the half and come out swinging and they don't stop until they put their opponent in the ground. You mentioned one player (Welker). Welker is 1/11 of the problem when the Pats have the ball. That's it. Let FanNation decide. We can always TD again after the game.
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