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PHIMan hates school said 11/14, 10:45 PM
Rules
Ronnie Brown is excluded.
AFC East- Mershawn Lynch
AFC North- Willie Parker
AFC South- Joseph Addai
AFC West- L.T
NFC East- Brian Westbrook
NFC North- Adrian Peterson
NFC South- Reggie Bush
NFC West- Edgerrin James
Lynch has rushed for 751 yards and 6 rushing Touchdowns. He averages 3.8 yards per carry.
Willie Parker has rushed for 873 yards and 97 yards per game which is the most in the AFC. He has 2 TD.
Addai has rushed for 760 yards. He also has scored 7 rushing touchdowns. He has gotten 45 1st downs. He averages 4.4 yards per carry.
L.T has rushed for 733 yards so far. He also has rushed for 8 touchdowns. He has accounted for 43 1st downs.
Westbrook rushed for 701 yards. He has 5 rushing TD. He averages 4.8 yards per carry. He has accounted for 38 1st Downs.
Peterson has rushed for the most yards in the NFL with 1081. He is injured now, but still has been the best in his division.
Bush can run and catch. He has ran for 451 yards and 4 touchdowns. He has accounted for 27 1st downs.
James has ran for 678 yards and 5 touchdowns. He averages 3.7 yards per carry. He has accounted for 32 1st downs.
Coach Taylor said 11/15, 12:14 AM
Alright so I'll go along with your format
AFC East- Marshawn Lynch
AFC North- Willie Parker
AFC South- Maurice Jones Drew
AFC West- LT
NFC East- Brian Westbrook
NFC North- Adrian Peterson
NFC South- Reggie Bush
NFC West- Edgerrin James
Okay I had 1 different pick in the AFC South, MJD over Joseph Addai.
People have been going crazy over Joseph Addai???s season but in the head to head stats, MJD has been average .9 more yards a carry (5.3 to Addai???s 4.5) Addai only has two more catches than Jones-Drew but Maurice has 1.4 more yards per reception. And has 5 TDs on the season
MJD is playing on a less talented Jaguars team with tow inexperienced QBs in Quinton Gray and David Garrard, playing with Peyton Manning and running behind the Colts line can make anyone look good. See Kenton Keith. Playing with Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark helps too, MJD has Mat Jones and Mercedes Lewis.
Jones Drew averages more yards a touch than Addai, so basically he???s doing more with less, If you give Jones-Drew the same amount of carries you???d have; MJD, 906 yards and Addai 760.
PHIMan hates school said 11/15, 07:39 PM
Alright Maurice Jones-Drew has rushed for 536 yards and Addai has rushed for 760 yards. Also Jones-Drew has rushed for 5 TD and Addai has rushed for 7 TD.
Now about the average, I know MJD has a higher average, but he has way less attempts. Also when the Colts are winning, Addai runs the ball at the end of the game and the other defense probably is looking for the run and stacks the box up by brining 8 or 9 people up.
Now Addai has accounted for 45 1st downs by running and Jones-Drew has only accounted for 26 1st downs. So Addai keeps the drive moving better than MJD does. That is important for the team to have.
Addai has 221 receiving yards and MJD has 235 yards through the air. Now Addai has 2 receiving TD and MJD has no receiving touchdowns.
Jones-Drew has fumbles two times and lost both of those fumbles and Addai has never fumbles the ball yet.
When the Colts played the Patriots, Addai had a great game, he rushed for 112 yards and had 114 receiving and 1 TD. That is over 225 yards and 1 TD. Now against the Chargers he only rushed for 56 yards and the Colts lost. That is how important he is to the team.
Coach Taylor said 11/15, 09:46 PM
Lack of touches aren???t why Jones-Drew???s average is higher, He???s averaged over 5 YPC in both his NFL seasons, Addai has averaged 4.8 and 4.4 which are good numbers but MJD has had season averages of 5.7 and 5.3
MJD does well when he???s given enough touches, When he was given 19 carries last week he averaged 5.3 YPC and that was the most he???s been given all year.
MJD has to share touches with Fred Taylor, Addai gets all of his teams carries. MJD???s touches are the only reason he???s not having a better overall year than Joe Addai.
73 of Addai???s receiving yards came on one reception and that because the offense did a great job blocking and the Patriots missed all their tackles
He???s important to his teams but look at this when the Colts lost to the Chargers Peyton Manning threw 6 Interceptions, that???s why they lost not because Addai had a bad game.
PHIMan hates school said 11/15, 10:36 PM
I never said that the reason why Jones-Drew has a good average was because of his less attempts, I just said that he has much less attempts than Addai.
Now since MJD and Fred Taylor share carries that gives Jones-Drew a little time to rest. So since Addai does not have someone to share time with, he is in on every play and plays more tired than Jones-Drew.
Now you mentioned Addais big gain was the bulk of his yards. Well Jones-Drew has 6 rushes for 20 or more yards and 2 gains of 40 or more yards. Addai only has 2 of 20 or more yards and none of 40 or more yards. Addai has a gain of 23 yards which is his longest run.
The least Addai has rushed for in 1 game was 72 yards and in that game he had 2 TD. He has 4 games of 100 or more rushing yards. He has scored a touchdown is 6 of his 8 games this season.
MJD has a run for 57 yards which is his longest. MJD only has 2 100- yard rushing games. He has scored a TD in 4 out of his 9 games. MJD has 6 games of 52 yards or less.
Also Addai is on a first place football team and MJD is not. That has nothing to do with it, but I just wanted to throw that in there. Addai has had at least 2 catches in each game.
Coach Taylor said 11/15, 11:30 PM
I???m just saying that MJD is doing more with less.
Those long runs by Maurice Jones Drew just prove that he has the speed, power, and agility to pop a long run at any time. An average YPC counts the losses for negative yards too so It evens out in the end.
???Addai only has 2 of 20 or more yards and none of 40 or more yards. Addai has a gain of 23 yards which is his longest run.???
That says that Addai can???t break that last tackle or make him miss. That 23 yard run wasn???t a TD so he got stopped, which would prove that MJD is a better runner
MJD may have less 100 yard games but he hasn???t gotten a chance really; he doesn???t have a game with more than 20 carries so far this year, the fact that he has any 100 yard games is impressive.
Addai has gotten 20 or more carries in 7 games this year and he???s only managed to get over 100 yards 4 times.
Maurice Jones Drew has had 2 or more catches in 8 games this year.
Does MJD???s season seem more impressive now?
???The least Addai has rushed for in 1 game was 72 yards???
Correction it was 56 you said it yourself
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