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G.O.A.T. said 11/17, 09:25 AM
You said "right now" in your title yet one of your main points was that he single handedly led the Cavs to the Finals. That's last year.

Anyways, RIGHT NOW the best player in the NBA is Kevin Garnett. It's no coincidence the Celtics are 8-0 right now either. He's only averaging 7 points less per game playing on a team where they have three big scorers. However, KG is averaging 6 more rebounds per game and is shooting 57% from the field compared to LeBron's 47.

See, in my opinion, LBJ's stats are going to be better than a lot of other guys because of his teammates. He HAS to score. He HAS to rebound. He HAS to handle the ball. The difference with KG is that he plays on a team with other good players and is still able to be a force out on the court. By the way, here's an interesting statistic I found:

KG's Free Throw%- 83
LeBron's FT%- 67

That is a very bad percentage from the charity stripe for LeBron. Now, Garnett is a big guy and James is a small forward. I realize that BUT Garnett is averaging 3 steals per game compared to LeBron's 2. That's a big man doing that!

KG is first on NBA.com's Race to the MVP while LBJ sits at 11TH! To me, KG is the #1 player right now

G.O.A.T. said 11/17, 09:58 AM
What do you mean right now doesn't mean this season? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Right now is right now. Now, you said James isn't playing as well as Garnett is. Isn't that the whole point of this throwdown? You basically just said I was right.

Let's see, if you're a good player on a average team you'll have really good stats, right? If you're a good player on a good team your stats will be somewhat lower, correct? Well, KG was the latter if you couldn't tell. Just think if he was playing like this in Minnesota. His averages would be sky high.

And what's wrong with European players? You make it sound like they suck. Dirk Nowitzki, a European player himself, won the MVP trophy last year. AK47 is a very good player as well. Pau Gasol is from Spain and is a top big man in the League. Tony Parker is quite good as well and he's from overseas.

Now, you said OVER HALF the players are from Europe. I checked and they have TWO. Zyrdunas and Pavlovic are the only ones. Zydrunas is averaging 16 points and 12 rebounds. How terrible can he be? Gooden and Gibson aren't bad either.

Finally, you said his teammates give the ball to the other team. LBJ leads his team in TOs!

G.O.A.T. said 11/17, 12:16 PM
Varejao hasn't played a game this year so that doesn't really count. Pavlovic isn't very good but he's one of your two European players and he's the only one that isn't good.

You said that Garnett is much more mature than LeBron right now. Who are you arguing for? You helped me out on that one. I'm not really going to compare divisions as much as I will their schedules so far. Boston has played SIX playoff teams from last year so far. (Indiana and Atlanta are the only ones that didn't.) They are 8-0. Cleveland has played seven playoff team yet have played 2 more games than the Celtics have. Of those seven, six are good right now. Against those teams, they are 1-4. Not very good.

Now, before the season everyone was saying that Pierce and Allen were both past their primes. Now, you're calling them superstars? Besides, there are 3 good players. The rest are average at best.

Back to division strength: the division the Cavs play in could maybe be considered the toughest in the EAST but in the entire league they are 3rd or 4th behind the divisions from the West.

Finally, when KG is on the floor his team scores 24 more points per 100 possessions than they do with him off it.