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Phew, all 1200 characters.

haha, same here, that last word is supposed to be 'own'

this is a great throwdown, and being a penn st. fan, i would have to agree with wbcincy one on thing...that PSU should take a wait and see approach to his contract, and if PSU wins their bowl game, and has a big ten title season next year or better...keep him for a couple more years. but another mediocre team or worse, and PSU might start grooming Tom Bradley for the spot. WE ARE....PENN STATE!

1199 characters this time, I'm doing good!

Keep in mind just how die hard I am for Penn State and how much this TD truly pains me to have to write about JoePa. I just think for his sake and the football team, its time. My grandparents were class of '39, my parents were class of '72, and I'm class of '04. We've had our season tickets in our family since the Beaver was built, so I'm as invested in the team as anyone, and I have desperately wanted JoePa to be able to go out on top, but I'm afraid he had his best shot in '05.

Just look at some things, JayPa is the QB coach, and he calls the passing plays. Thats right, someone else calls the running plays, great scheme there. And then when Joe doesnt like whats called, he screams at McQueary, who then has to relay that up to those 2 in the booth, because Joe wont wear a headset. Back to JayPa, what has this guy ever done to deserve his position other than be born with the right last name? Name a QB for Penn State who has improved from his freshman season AS A QB at PSU under Jay? I know MRob was great, but he was great as an athlete that could create, not in his ability to read D's or improve his quarterbacking skills.
Against Michigan this year, Joe said after the game he thought we could run on them, and thats why our offensive gameplan didnt work. Did he even considere watching either of UM's 2 losses? You know, where teams beat them with spread O's? Nope, its a big game on the road, so rest assured that Joe will have the most conservative gameplan ever.

i'm a penn state fan and i say he needs to go. the only reason they are still turning out good seasons is simply because they are penn state. people want to play for the white and blue. joe pa, god bless his soul, is a penn state legend but needs to step down. have u ever heard his press conferences? he has no clue whats going on. he's merely a figured head. tom bradley should be the coach.

also, morelli is a bum and i can't wait til next year when he's gone. we also need a solid running back. kinlaw is mediocre at best.

luckily kinlaw is gone. I liked what I saw of Royster this year, and Stepfon Green, who redshirted is supposed to have breakaway speed. Also, we have 2 RB's from Ohio coming in next year, a speed guy and a bruiser, that are very solid, so I think RB ought to be alright.

I get optomistic about our potential talent, and then reality hits...we're going to get outcoached and it is very likely we wont have our best players on the field because they havent 'paid their dues' yet.

This year, Royster should have been in over Scott and Kinlaw. Chris Bell is a stud, but since he's in Joe's doghouse, he doesnt sniff the field. At the US Army all-america game, all week at practice it was a debate over who was the best WR, Chris Bell or Percy Harvin....lets so which coach utilized that talent best the first 2 years.....
Could we have done less with more than talent than we did with Quarless this year?
Its all just so frustrating, these kids deserve better.

ya, joe pa's system is based solely on seniority. that's good news about the rb's tho, should be interesting. whose up at qb? devlin?

The QB is a big question, I hope its Devlin, but again, Darryl Clark has paid his dues, so who knows.

Either way, we're going either have a more intelligent QB who can check down and mayb even go so far as to audible (gasp), or a mobile QB who can create when things break down. So I'm hoping for improvement at the position either way.

i'm PSU all the way....and maybe now with Carr retiring we can finally beat Michigan....but prob not until Joe Pa goes. He is everything PSU...but he is holding a good team back....as hard as it is- vote to Wbcincy

Cheezhead, you cant be a Penn State fan or you'd know better than this. You talk about Joe taking an average team and turning them into an amazing team..this isnt the 80's, that doesnt happen anymore. Joe takes great talent and makes them an ok team. Name for me the last game where Joe outcoached another coach? If you really are a fan and you watch the games, you'll have to look way back.

I could see where the casual fan doesnt see where I'm coming from, but trust me, Penn State fans know that what you're saying about Joe is no longer true

I'm a big PSU fan, and you wait, if they keep JoePa, great things will happen.