Esco said 11/26, 03:15 PM
List first, argue second and third.
1. Tom Brady
2. Brett Favre
3. Tony Romo
4. Derek Anderson
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Jon Kitna
7. Peyton Manning
8. Carson Palmer
9. Matt Hasselback
10. David Garrard
11. Drew Brees
12. Jason Campbell
13. Jay Cutler
14. Philip Rivers
15. Donovan McNabb
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 11/27, 03:11 PM
Okey dokey, sorry about the wait.
1. Tom Brady
2. Brett Favre
3. Ben Roethlisberger
4. Tony Romo
5. Derek Anderson
6. Peyton Manning
7. Carson Palmer
8. David Garrard
9. Jon Kitna
10. Matt Hasselbeck
11. Jeff Garcia
12. Jay Cutler
13. Drew Brees
14. Jason Campbell
15. Donovan McNabb
Esco said 11/27, 03:49 PM
It's all right.
Okay, It appears as if the biggest difference is your having Ben Roethlisberger ahead of Derek Anderson. DA has passed for 400 more yards, two fewer INTS, and they have the same amount of touchdowns. However, for this year, I put Anderson ahead because he has basically led the Browns to a 7-4 (should be 9-2) record. In terms of most VALUABLE to his team, I'd have to put him up there ahead of Randy Moss, and basically everyone besides Brady and Favre. He will almost definitely win Comeback Player of the Year, and has a realistic shot at being the Brown's first Pro Bowl QB since Bernie Kosar.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 11/27, 04:15 PM
Wrong. Roethlisberger has 23 TDs and 9 INT, Anderson has 22 TD and 11 INT. Not sure where you're getting your stats. Ben also has a better QB rating by over 15 points, better completion% by almost 10%, and more Y/A. Oh yeah, and Ben has led HIS team to a better record than Anderson has for his Browns, regardless of where the Browns "should" be. Comeback Player? Probs to Moss, but could be Anderson, not that it matters here. Pro Bowl? Same w/ Big Ben. Value to the team? Ben is already the leader of the Steelers.
You had Kitna way too high. He has the 14th best QB rating, 9th best completion%, 9th best Y/A, 11th most TDs and he is tied for 6th most INT thrown. He can't run, has the most sacks in the NFL (44), and is tied for most fumbles. He shouldn't be 6th place.
How could you not have Jeff Garcia on your list, either? 6th best QB rating, 13th in completion%, 11th in Y/A, and a great TD-INT ratio with 11 TD and 3 INT. He can also run, and doesn't get sacked or fumble often. Certainly he has top 15 numbers.
Esco said 11/27, 04:27 PM
Crap, I got mixed up. Never TD while wrestling two sugar-high 6 year-olds.
How is 3 spots different "way" too high? Kitna has more yards than both Manning and Garrard, more touchdowns than David Garrard, Jay Cutler, Donovan McNabb, and Jeff Garcia; and fewer INTs than Romo, Palmer and Brees. I don't think sacks are the fault of the quarterback, most of the blame has to be placed on the O-Line.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! said 11/27, 04:38 PM
First off, when you have 9 sacks more than the next closest guy...and when you're on pace to be only 6 sacks away from the record...it can't just be the OL. Also, you have to take into account how Kitna has probably a top 3 WR corps in the NFL, certainly top 5.
53.8% of Kitna's TDs & INTs are touchdowns. Among the other guys you compared Kitna to as far as TDs and INT go in the above argument, none of them have a worse % than Kitna. Also, Garrard has a better Yards/Attempt than Kitna, and although Manning is worse there, he beats Kitna in QB rating, TDs, TD-INT ratio, fumbles, sacks, and he also has way more rushing TDs.
Comments (12)
Kitna higher than Manning?
MaxH | 11/26/07, 03:22 PM
Report Offensive Commentgood, no Eli...
stecky-lookin boy | 11/26/07, 03:23 PM
Report Offensive Comment2007, homie. Kitna is having a better year. More yards, a higher completion %, and fewer INTs.
Esco | 11/26/07, 03:25 PM
Report Offensive CommentCarson Palmer has 15 picks in 11 games on a 4-7 team. Come on.
Kitna has 14 TD's, 12 picks, and has been sacked 44 times. Some of that is on him.
David Gerrard plays on a 8-3 team and hasn't thrown a pick all year. This list sucks.
tp10super | 11/26/07, 03:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentWhere is JP Losman??????
Goodell: Insane in the McCain | 11/26/07, 03:43 PM
Report Offensive CommentJust kidding guys!!!!
Goodell: Insane in the McCain | 11/26/07, 03:53 PM
Report Offensive CommentCRAP! I PRESSED SUBMIT TOO EARLY!!!!!
Esco | 11/27/07, 03:50 PM
Report Offensive CommentGood luck, btw
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 11/27/07, 04:17 PM
Report Offensive CommentThanks.
Esco | 11/27/07, 04:27 PM
Report Offensive CommentAh!!!!!!!!!!
Didnt get here in time!!!
LOL
Mac: The Day That Never Comes | 11/28/07, 04:41 PM
Report Offensive CommentDAMN! Another tie!
Esco | 11/28/07, 04:45 PM
Report Offensive CommentSucks big time.
Lifer: Metallica Sucks! | 11/28/07, 08:00 PM
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