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Bigalke said 12/05, 02:20 PM
Doping occurs in basically every sport to some extent. Cycling and track and field have been coming to grips with this reality for decades. Baseball and football are only recently coming to grips with this fact. Even the PGA is starting to look at drug testing!
The sentiments among American sports media would lead one to believe that baseball and football are mostly clean sports that are quickly working to weed out bad seeds. They also cry foul every year the Tour de France rolls into Paris. Yet cycling implements repeated in- and out-of-competition testing throughout the calendar year. Test results are transparent and quickly revealed to the public. By contrast, baseball takes weeks and months to reveal indiscretions.
These international athletes are tested for over 200 compounds. Baseball and football test for a handful of performance enhancers. Alessandro Petacchi recently received a two-year suspension for using his inhaler too much! The cortisone shots baseball players take to get back in the game would land a track star two years. The punishment fits the crime, unlike American sports... remember Shawne Merriman? One month off, and still a Pro Bowl reward at the end...
Goodell: NFL's Savant said 12/05, 02:25 PM
Wanna see how much the federal government spends fighting illegal drugs in a year????
http://www.drugsense.org/wodclock.htm
Its about $600 dollars a seconds
Spend 3 minutes reading this website, and you would say we spend too much time and money on it. Baseball has been in denial about sterioids since man could walk up-right. It hasnt become a serious problem in the PGA yet, and i think they are taking PREVENTATIVE Measures, if anything there.....
bottom line, we are not more permissive......The whole "doping" thing has only been in the spotlight for about the past 7-10 years..On a national level that is
Bigalke said 12/05, 02:35 PM
This is not a matter of how much the government spends on the doping issue. This is a matter of public perception. Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis, two American cycling stars who had the potential to become the next Lance Armstrong for a warming American public, were quickly thrown on the scrap heap when they tested positive for doping (blood for Hamilton, testosterone for Landis).
Then look at someone like Merriman or Jason Giambi. Both were embroiled in scandal when their positive results first came out. Now each are relatively free of any stain on their legacies and continuing to play. American sports slap token penalties on athletes to install a facade of control; international sports fight at the forefront to keep their sports as clean as possible.
The proof is in this: when did baseball begin testing for amphetamines? 2005, twenty-five years after Jim Bouton's expose "Ball Four" revealed the rampant problem with stimulants in the sport. Cycling, by contrast, set up its testing policy the season after Tom Simpson died, overloaded on amphetamines in the heat, on Mont Ventoux in 1967. One mindset works proactively, regardless of media outlook. The other drags its feet...
Goodell: NFL's Savant said 12/05, 04:10 PM
Now Merriman should recive the benifit of the doubt. He had never been in trouble before, or since. He served his time, was drug tested repeatedly and now we need to let is rest. Thats why he got suspended, right?? Thats why he was NOT allowed to get the Def Player of the Year last season. He says it was a honest mistake, and until he gets in trouble agian, I will belive him.
Now for Giambi......Baseball is the exception to the rules. They have been batteling steriods for some time now.
But look at the Olympic Athlete that publicly apoligized and was then stripped from the history books. I cant remember her name.....But she just did it like a month ago.
We are not complacent as a nation. But there are SOOOOO many hoops to jump through to get a process started....And then do you really want congress spending time talking baseball, when there is a war goin on in Iraq??? And no hope in sight for those effected by Katrina either....But, lets talk baseball....Cmon
Bigalke said 12/05, 04:32 PM
This is not a matter for Congress, just as cycling offenses and track offenses are not for the United Nations to arbitrate. This is a matter for sports governing bodies to tackle. And, while the UCI, IOC and WADA continue to push forward with new concepts like the biological footprint and DNA tracking, Major League Baseball and the NFL continue to shuffle their feet.
Case in point: Paul Byrd was found to have purchased large quantities of HGH while continuing to be allowed to compete in the ALCS for Cleveland. If he was a cyclist, he would be banned for two years. As of yet, MLB has meted out no punishment.
Merriman is an interesting case as well. He had no previous history... and he has gotten the benefit of the doubt. But neither did Landis or Hamilton have previous histories of doping, and they were tested on a much more consistent basis. While Merriman has been allowed to resume his career after a paltry one-month suspension, athletes like Landis and Hamilton have seen their earning power and livelihood effectively eliminated.
NFL players take cortisone shots to get back on the field; those would land two years for a sprinter. There is more to doping than just steroids...
Goodell: NFL's Savant said 12/05, 04:57 PM
I tore my rotator cuff in college, and i get a cortisone shots at least 2x a year.....I dont consider that "doping". I consider it painful if I dont. For them to think a cortisone shot is doping is some what funny....
Baseball allows thier players to "get away" with it for one simple reason. Before Mcgwires record setting season, baseball was in the same boat that hockey is now. Low attendance....poor ratings.....and then BAM!!!! Mcgwire and Sosa are smackem left and right. No one wanted to answer the question, so they stuck thier collective heads (Bud Selig and the powers that be) in the sand cause people were watching, and it was all about the long ball.....
Other sports do not lets people slide they way baseball does. Maybe your TD title should have been, "Baseball more permissive of doping than international sports".....and i would have agreed with you. But american sports, in WHOLE, are not
Good TD. I look forward to another one, another day!
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Using drugs will always run rampant in sports regardless of how hard they test and how extreme the penelty becomes. Athletes are always looking for the edge over the competition and I don't see it ever being stopped. But to say it's worse in the NFL or MLB than in International Competition is just ignorant. Every year in the Tour de France whole teams are taken out of competition for doping, and the Olympics always are good for two or three doping scandals. No sport will ever be perfect when it comes to cheating.
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