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'Ey Capernicus - O'Connell! said 12/07, 11:29 PM
Pick one player from each NFL draft since the 2000 draft as your steal of the draft.
2000 - Tom Brady (199th pick)
2001 - Steve Smith (74th pick) I couldn't find anyone else.
2002 - Aaron Kampman (156th pick)
2003 - Cato June (198th pick)
2004 - Nathan Vasher (110th pick)
2005 - Derek Anderson (213th pick)
2006 - Marques Coltson (252nd pick)
2007 - Tanard Jackson (106th pick) It's nearly impossible to tell already.
Big Ben68 said 12/08, 12:40 AM
Alright, well I'm throwing this together in a hurry (despite me taking about an hour to do this). I was trying NOT to duplicate too many of your own as well as to give some love to the big men up front.
2000: Tom Brady (199th). I was thinking about going with Mark Tauscher, Adalius Thomas, or even Marc Bulger, but the allure of No. 12 was too overpowering.
2001: Adrian Wilson (64th). For me this was a near tie with Ryan Diem and Steve Smith, but he pulls just ahead of them. Smith is great, but he can't produce when Jake Delhomme isn't the QB.
2002: Brian Westbrook (91st). This one was almost too easy even though this draft's later rounds were overflowing with great defensive players, Westbrook outshines them all as he is the Philadelphia offense.
2003: Jason Witten (69th). He was an early third rounder, but with his kind of production he is first to early second material. Another notable guy is Briggs (68th) and Asante Samuel (120th).
2004: Jared Allen (126th). Now this was probably the toughest of all the years (at least for me) to find someone. Cooley is notable.
2005: Kirk Morrison (78th). He and Kerry Rhodes shined among the other late round guys.
REST IN COMMENTS.
'Ey Capernicus - O'Connell! said 12/08, 07:00 PM
2001: What receiver can produce without a quarterback? Look at Randy Moss! He has one of the best quarterbacks in the league and now he is one of the best receivers. Smith has over 5,000 yards and he has 35 touchdowns, for a 3rd rounder thats amazing.
2002: Kampman is known around the league as one of the best DE's. Kampman is the heart and soul of the Pack's D. I know all this can be said for Westbrook, but it is extremely difficult for a lineman to stay consistent especially when he requires a double team like Kapman does.
2003: Witten was a thrid rounder so it isn't hard to find players from thrid rounders that could be first or second rounders. It is hard to find players from the sixth round that turn out to be a second round talent and possibly even a first in some people's minds.
2004: I messed up here, but Vasher has been an important part to the Bear's D and he is the best player in their secondary in my opinion.
2005: Anderson has been one of the best QB's this season and possibly the biggest surprise. He came 135 picks after Kirk! 135! He has led the Browns to a fight for the playoffs while the Raiders are out of it.
I'll have to finish this in comments as well
Big Ben68 said 12/08, 09:51 PM
But for a 3rd rounder this is SUPPOSED to be a number one wideout, he can't produce without Delhomme. He's had ONE 100 yard game since Delhomme went out (two while Delhomme was QB). Every game WITHOUT Jake, his YPC Avg has dipped as low as 5 and as high as 13.6 (compare to 10 low and 19.1 high). Without Delhomme Smith just CAN'T produce. I'll take Wilson who (despite being practically unkown until last year) has produced steadily in a bad defense of Arizona. He had 8 sacks, 109 tackles, 9 PD, and in 2005 (didn't make the PB).
'Ey Capernicus - O'Connell! said 12/08, 10:00 PM
You expect Steve Smith to produce with the pathetic David Carr and Vinny Testaverde, who is way past his prime. Also, if Carolina could just get a number two receiver Steve Smith wouldn't be focused on by the entire opposing defense for all of the game. Do you think that if the Patriots had just Moss and Troy Brown that Moss would be getting the stats he has been? I don't think so. When there aer two guys covering you it is EXTREMELY hard to get open. Also, this is Carr's and Vinny's first year with Smith. Usually it takes a whole season for a quarterback and a receiver to form the chemistry needed to know what the other is doing and thinking at all times.
Big Ben68 said 12/08, 10:55 PM
Voters, please make sure to read the LONG comment of mine on the second page of the comments detailing more as I accidentally hit Submit Argument for my second comment before I had finished.
Colston has been a great surprise, but he has slipped compared to last year (at this point he already had 1,000 yards), but Landry (despite being take just over 100 picks earlier) made just about as much a difference on his team as Colston did on his own. Landry filled a spot beside Ed Reed that hadn't had many playmakers there. This gave Ed Reed even more freedom to do what he wanted than before. Colston just became another weapon on a team that could seemingly turn ANY wide receiver (Jamal Jones, Terrance Copper, Devery Henderson, Mike Karney, etc) into a dangerous weapon that could be utilized in almost any situation. Somewhat of a system thing.
Edwards and Jackson are no doubt making their impacts on their own teams, BUT what position is more scrutinized? More blamed for a loss or celebrated for a win? If you guessed QB, that would be correct. With Edwards under center the Bills have gone 4-1. With any other QB, they've gone 2-5.
Voters, please read my LONG comment on PG. 2
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'Ey Capernicus -…
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So we're looking at about 3rd round and later?
Big Ben68
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Thank you...
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Yeah around there should be fine.
'Ey Capernicus -…
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I hope you don't mind me taking so long...
Big Ben68
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Do Work Son, it's only 3rd to 7th round...no second (which means no Chad Johnson, Devin Hester, or Adrian Peterson).
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Fair enough...
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2000-Brady
2001-Rudi Johnson (100)
2002-Kampman
2003-Antonio Gates (Undrafted) or June
2004-Willie Parker (Undrafted) or Vasher
2005-Tony Romo/Josh Cribbs (U) or Barber
2006-Colston
2007-Mason Crosby (193)
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^I was thinking about Romo, Cribbs, and Gates but didn't think they were eligible since they TECHNICAL weren't a late round steal (since they weren't drafted).
Big Ben68
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REST OF MY FIRST ARGUMENT
2006: Dawan Landry (146th). He played/started all 16 games last season for the Ravens notching 69 tackles, 3 sacks, and 5 INTs. This year hasn't been quite so giving with the INTs as he has zero, but he is still making an impact.
2007: Trent Edwards (92nd). With him as the starter BUF is 4-1. With Losman: 2-5.
Big Ben68
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Well, Capernicus, I'll be finishing this tomorrow night. So, good day (or technically night).
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Houshmanzadeh is a great steal from 2001.
Harris.
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chinny814
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you all have missed housh except for harris
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This could go in so many directions...great topic, great arguments...we could go all day on Westbrook vs. Kampman.
I'd definitely put Housh ahead of Adrian Wilson, though. That was right around the last time the multi-faceted safety wasn't considered a necessity like it is today.
Ya gotta look at what makes a guy a first round pick vs. being a Day 2 pick. It comes down to size and freakish athletic ability. Adrian Wilson does not have elite size, and while is obviously a very talented player, there are way more examples of Wilson around the league than there are of, say...well, I don't want to mention his name due to the tragedy Washington has recently endured, but he's the perfect example of what I mean.
That Safety is a first-round pick, because you just don't see guys that size able to play safety. Wilson, Kerry Rhodes, et. al, are not rare enough to justify taking with that high of a pick.
My point is to call someone like Wilson a "steal" isn't all that accurate. Yes, he's a great player to have, but I can't see how drafting him much higher than where he went was all that bright of a move for a team at the time of the draft.
Steelercooz
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vote to Ben.
Sorry 'Ey
Edwards was a much bigger steal :-)
KPKahder
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Westbrook was a HUGE steal in the 3rd round
Keysta
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Hi. This is 'Ey on my old account. For some reason it won't let me log in. I'll try to fix it, sorry. And it's okay Kp.
NEsportsfan27
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Okay, good. I fixed it. Sorry about that Big Ben.
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