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J (Browns 19-0) Carbathlee said 12/20, 07:41 PM
Are you serious? You are saying that Kobe is better than MJ because he is better in 8 games? Ever heard of an off game? Jordan was much better defensively and I have no idea how you can argue that. MJ is the greatest of all time. He was on the team with the best record of all time. He led the Bulls to 6 NBA Championship victories, and in all 6 he was the MVP (NBA record). He had 2 three peats in his career. He has the most consecutive games scoring in double digits with 866 and had 10 NBA scoring titles! Jordan was on the ALL NBA DEFENSIVE TEAM 9 times on the FIRST team. He was on the ALL NBA TEAM 11 times and won MVP 5 times while he was the rookie of the year and the 1991 Sportsman of the year.

MJ to Kobe
Scoring titles
K-2
MJ- 10

NBA Title
K-3
MJ-6

MVP
K-0
MJ-5

Defensive teams
MJ-9
K-7
All NBA team
MJ-11 (10 first teams)
K- 9 (5 first teams)

J (Browns 19-0) Carbathlee said 12/20, 08:52 PM
What? Kobe is in his prime now and he will be out of the league in about 6 years so unless he wins 5 MVP awards in 6 years I am good. Plus his team is going no where and fast. I wouldn't be expecting another NBA title out of him. Did you not just see what I wrote? You can't judge a player for how he played against someone else in 8 games. You are taking a TINY sample of these players careers and it doesn't even matter. If Jason Williams has more head to head points a game against Nash than Nash does, is Williams the better player? What about Okafor to Garnett? Your reasoning is completely flawed so use something else.

According to you, Kobe is better then MJ because he took the series at a weak 5-3. Lets not forget Kobe had Shaq. Shaq is better than Kobe. I think Kobe has done a very good job of proving that he can't lead his team to anything without Shaq. As soon as MJ left the Bulls they started losing big time. Jordan has a total of 11 MVP awards from regular season and NBA final MVPs. He is much more valuable than Kobe is and Kobe brings nothing but trouble to his teams. Jordan didn't force players out of his team because it would help him to score more. He was all about te

J (Browns 19-0) Carbathlee said 12/20, 09:18 PM
Listen dj, stick to the throwdown. You can leave the easy win crap for the arguments but I really think it is sad that you care so much about someone undefeated on a sports website.

Anyway, sorry readers, so you are saying that Pippen is better than MJ? That was not a weak argument, just an absolutley terrible counter argument. I am saying that Shaq was the best player on the Lakers. Kobe wasn't. MJ was always the best player on his team and he didn't get nearly as much help as Kobe did. Pippen could not do anything without MJ proving MJ was the team. When Pippen tried to step up it backfired right in his face. MJ has more MVPs, NBA Titles, better seasonal record, more PPG on his career, better defensively and offensively, and he is considered by almost all the greatest player in the NBA of all time. Kobe has only led the league in scoring 2 times compared to MJ who has done it 10 times. It shows that MJ was much more dominate than Kobe who shares the scoring titles with others. MJ owned it.

Jordan as you said had .2 more steals per game which doesn't sound like a lot but it makes a huge difference in a game and a season. Micheal Jordan had more all-star games too. 14 to 9.