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Matt Leinart should not be ranked higher than Jay Cutler on your list.


Matt Leinart started 11 games (12 games played; 4-7 or Win% 36.4%) and had the following stats: Comp%-56.8%; YPA-6.76; Yds/G-212.25; TD-11; INT-12; Rating-74.0. He did this while having Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Bryant Johnson, and Edgerrin James as the team's four leading receivers (yard wise).
Cutler started 5 games (2-3 or Win% of 40%) and had the following stats: Comp%-59.1; YPA-7.31; Yds/G- 200.2; TD-9; INT-5; Rating-88.5. He did this while having Javon Walker, Rod Smith, Brandon Marshall, and Tony Scheffler as the team's four leading receivers (yard wise).
Cutler was better in every statistical category, except for Yds/G, than Leinart. His options at receiver were also not as good as Leinart's. How can you justify rating Leinart better than Cutler? Especially when all you have to go on is last year's play, where Cutler was clearly the better QB. His record would have been much better had his defense not let him down. He even beat Leinart head-to-head when the Broncos smashed the Cardinals 37-20. In that game: Cutler 21/31 for 261Yds 2TD 1INT; Leinart 20/35 for 214Yds 0TD 2INT.


Ken Whisenhunt did wonders with Big Ben in Pittsburgh and will design an offense that plays to Leinart's strengths. It's close, but I think Leinart is just a little bit better of a quarterback.


Why do you think Leinart is the better QB? Cutler had a 9:5 TD to INT ratio over 5 games; with less talented WRs than Leinart. Leinart had a 11 to 12 TD to INT ratio over 12 games. Cutler beat him around the board, and played better than the QB he replaced. Plummer started 11 games and completed 55.2% of his passes, had a TD to INT ratio of 11:13, with a rating of 68.8. Warner was better than Leinart last year. He completed 64.3% of his passes (compare to Leinart's 56.8%) and had a TD to INT ratio of 6:5 with a rating of 89.3 (way better than Leinart's 74.0 rating).
Big Ben has had the benefit of a tremendous running game to help his maturity. Cutler does have the benefit of a running game too. However, they zone block, which requires smaller faster lineman, which means that they have to sacrifice in pass protection. Also, Whisenhunt has to worry about the whole team now, and not just working with his QB and the offense. Cutler proved to be the better decision maker, a more accurate thrower (just look at the stats), scouting reports have him as having the stronger arm, and he's got quicker feet than Leinart.


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I still don't have an answer to why you can list Leinart over Cutler, other than you're own opinion. Whisenhunt spent his whole career specializing in coaching TEs, HBs, and Special teams; until he became the Steelers' OC. The only QB he has ever had to develop has been Roethlisberger. For all we know, is that Roethlisberger could have just been special during that time, and benefitted from not having to be "the man". I think that is more logical than Whisenhunt being a QB guru. If anything, he will turn Leonard Pope into a Pro Bowler.
Alot of people think ARI offense was worse than the Broncos, as well as their pass protection. They ranked 18th over the Broncos 21st in total offense. True, this team did rank dead last in rush avg. (3.2 ypc), but their pass protection was pretty good for Leinart. Leinart was sacked on avg 1 out of every 18 pass plays. That was better than San Diego, who was 8th in having given up the least amount of sacks (1:16.6). They did give up 35 sacks to Denvers 31, but they threw the ball 91 more times than Denver. Most of those sacks could have been credited to Warner, with his lead feet got sacked 1 out of 12 Pass attempts (14 sacks in 5 games)


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Leinart didn't have an O-line, are you crazy?

Arizona's offense is in fact worse than the Broncos.

Pollo Loco you're a tool.

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Leinart is better. period.

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Bio, you're an idiot. Explain why Warner was able to play better than Leinart behind the same line.

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Because Warner is a vet?

Jesus H. Christ.

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Leinart is a much better QB, he was in college and he will be in the NFL. The talent surrounding both QB's weighs heavily in favor of Leinart and Whisenhunt will make him better. Also, Grimm is going to make that O-Line better and give James bigger holes and Leinart more time to complete passes to Boldin and Fitzgerald.....It could be scary.

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Cardinals gave up 35 sacks last year and the Broncos gave up 31. So I guess Leinart really didn't have a line? Cardinals had lead footed Warner in the backfield which accounted for 14 sacks on 168 pass attempts (over 5 games). That's 1 sack for every 12 passing plays. Leinart had 21 sacks (over 12 games) on 377 pass attempts. That's 1 sack over every 17.95 passing plays. The Cardinals line was not that bad in pass protection. It was their run blocking that was horrible. Bio, you are a complete idiot.

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Plummer was a vet too.

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Why so big on Whisenhunt as a QB guru? The man spent most of his coaching career coaching TE and H-Backs. When he played he was a TE and a blocking back.
Pittsburgh had that dominate ground game, and it's more possible that Roethlisberger was a better fit for that team than Whisenhunt was at being a QB guru. Arizona was one of the worst teams running the ball last year, and Leinart doesn't have the same skill set as Roethlisberger either. We can assume their running game should be better, but we all know what assume did...
Chances are, the Cardinals won't meet expectations. Much like they do every year.
Also, Leinart was better in college because he played for a team called USC. Cutler played for a team called Vanderbilt. How many people from Leinart's USC teams are in the NFL today? A lot. How many were on Cutler's Vandy team? Little, if any!

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Whisenhunt is overrated. If he was a top notch coach, the Steelers would have promoted him. The Rooney family does not screw up. I see Cutler, with a better team around him, being ranked higher. It's about results and Leinart hasn't performed as well as Cutler. Until Leinart out plays Cutler in statistical categories, you cannot say that he's a better QB. It's about measurable results along with wins and losses... look at the numbers and see who is better! Go get 'em Loco!

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Wow, when the guy's argument is that the new coach did good stuff with another QB, you know he's been beaten. But once again, the dumb**** voters have it wrong. Seriously pple, LOOK AT THE BLEEPING ARGUMENT! It's not about what you feel, it's about the fact presented.

You all drank the ESPN/Media-Hype/USC kool-aid. Sometimes it feels like the only fans out there that wouldn't let Pete's bunch rape them in the arse, are pple who are die-hard Bruin, Fighting Irish and Longhorn fans. It's like if you were walking on the street and saw Matt Lienart, you stop him ask him to punch you in the face, take all your money and give your girlfriend a STD. I've never seen such widespread favoritism.

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El Pollo Loco definatly proves his point.This guy works fo S.I and is getitng manslaughtered in the arguement the only reason you all think Leinart is so good is because he had success in College.

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