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SI Insider Debate: Does the Packer's loss to the Bears mean they're not as good as people think?

Pack man said 12/23, 11:42 PM
In my opinion, no way, sure it means they don't get home field advantage, but Green Bay was not able to use their best weapon, their passing game, especially in 25 mph+ they tried to but that was a very bad call by Mike Martz to pass so much, in the conditions the game was played today no team would have been able to pass great, Bears ran it yard by yard, but when Green Bay did use the running game they were dominant against the Bears Defense, if the Packers were able to use 100% of their talent in fair conditions it would have been a different game, in no way does this game mean the Packers aren't as great as people thought they were they still are a contender for the NFC title and a trip to the Super Bowl.

ROYALwCHEESE BS CB MS 2179 22 said 12/23, 11:50 PM
For crying out loud, Brett Favre has played in as many games as the whole Packers team combined. You think THOSE winds affected them? Don't blame the conditions of the football game unless it looks like the Bills-Browns game. And if most of the country thought the Packers were going to win this game, and they lost, then that kinda does make them not as good. They're still a great team, and one of the Super Bowl contenders, but now, this game shows us that they needed that home field advantage. And that's probably the dumbest thing ever to say "if the Packers were able to use 100% of their talent in fair conditions it would have been a different game" thats a load of crap. Do you think they're the only ones that has to deal with that weather? There was another team on that field that had to deal with it, and they won. Those aren't even close to all of the teams that have to deal with bad weather. Just implying that the Packers are the only team that have to deal with bad weather, you're about 31 teams off.

Pack man said 12/24, 12:02 AM
I never said that they're the only ones that had to deal with the weather, Bears played great and made better calls concerning the weather, I am saying though that Favre was givien bad play calls by Mike Martz , Favre said it was a game of chance everytime he threw the football, and yes I think THOSE winds would affect anyone especially if it effects brett favre and his 5 great recievers....which definately means it would have been a different game if conditions were different and simple as that, Bears played better football and was ready for the conditions Green Bay wasn't, but if you matched them without those winds trust me Green Bay would have done the job.

ROYALwCHEESE BS CB MS 2179 22 said 12/24, 12:11 AM
Now, I know kickers and quarter backs are the same, but did you see Phil Dawson's field goal last week? That was with even worse conditions. I'll give it to you that Brett Favre should not have been allowed 32 attempts, but if he had a strong and accurate arm as we thought and with his "5 great receivers", he shouldn't have been the one with 2 INT's, that should've been Kyle Orton, but instead he gets 0 INT's, 1 TD, and 8/14 completions. If the Packers were as good as we thought, they should've beaten the Bears in this weather, they play in bead weather all the time in Green Bay. It's not like every week is a sunny game in Miami.

Pack man said 12/24, 12:27 AM
As we thought? Favre has one of the strongest arms in the NFL and yes 5 great receivers and there is a difference between 14 attempts and 32 attempts, and now I guess you're saying Orton is a better QB than Favre? This was possibly the only thing the young Packers team besides Favre never considered happening, which has nothing to do with talent but experience, I'd actually add this as a plus for the Packers because now they know as a young team what to do in that kind of weather and they will use it to their advantage along with all of their talent next time. Please to say that they're not as talanted because of this loss is pure ignorance, and we all know football is best in extreme weather, but experience comes in handy no matter how much talent any team has. I guess if a good team loses they aren't that great of a football team anymore to you? The Packers have a long way to go as a team but all of that talent is carrying them to where they are and yes they are just as good as they were before this game.

ROYALwCHEESE BS CB MS 2179 22 said 12/24, 11:12 AM
Well if they do have "5 great receivers", I guess it wasn't a bad idea to throw it to them 32 times if they really are that great. And I'm not saying Orton is better than Favre, he just played better in that game, regardless of the conditions. How could you say the Packers weren't considering this weahter? They play in frikin Green Bay! I'm saying they're not as talented because, who expected the Packer to win this game? MOstly everyone out of Illinois. We expected them to overcome the weather. Now that we see that they can't, we know that they cannot play in these types of conditions. They're a fantastic team in good weather. But in conditions like these, where we thought they would win, they can't get the job done. That's considered not being as good as we thought they would be.

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The conditions were the same for both teams. How much more fair do you want it?

1Hawkeye1 wants Vida | 12/24/07, 12:01 AM

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