2 Greatest Heisman Trophy winners since 1980.
RUGator said 12/28, 10:42 PM
Herschel Walker and Bo Jackson are the two most dominant college football players to win the Heisman Trophy since 1980.
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 12/28, 10:54 PM
I will go with Herchel but instead of Bo i will go with Barry Sanders...for one he was a Jr when he won it Bo was a senior...one less year performance and playing time to get the attention of Voters...Along with being a back up to Thurman Thomas untill his Jr year when Thomas went pro, he was never the starting running back....so this season he took over the starting position is the season he won the heisman..
Barry Also took in more votes than Bo did with 1878, while Bo had 1509...
Facts...
-Sanders rushed for 2,628 yards, an NCAA record.
-He had 3,249 total yards, an NCAA record.
-Sanders scored 39 TDs (37 rushing, 1 kick return, 1 punt return), an NCAA record.
-He averaged 7.6 yards per carry.
-He rushed for 300+ yards in four games.
That was during the 11-game regular season. In the bowl game that year he ran for 22yds with 5 t.d. all within 3 qrts...
RUGator said 12/28, 11:16 PM
Facts are facts and you raise an impressive argument for Barry Sanders. He could easily be the one. I cannot argue against Sanders's numbers. They are probably the most impressive RAW numbers I have ever seen amassed. I'm going to rest my argument on Bo's intangibles. Jackson dominated the SEC for 2 of the 4 years he played (hurt junior year, 800 yds freshman). I saw him play. As a Gator, he was THE most feared player we faced, and we had some great teams in the 80's. He was a big, fast, and powerful back who could break a game open. In 85 vs. us in Auburn, he broke off 2 runs, each over 70 yds. that broke our backs. I'm going to rest on the stiffer competition of the SEC that Bo faced and the fear he wrought.
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 12/28, 11:45 PM
While both had GREAT colleges years, we all know that heisman winners have a knack for dropping off the radar in the pros....not ALL but a lot...
Now with that said being, a multi athlete (Bo) had more to concern himself with than just one sport....he had to stay on top of two games...thus Barry only one. Now being the best (debatable) running back ever....has proven that he furthered his career than Bo...playing two sports is a great feat...and he was quiet possibly the best at it...he really only was good at both and not great...Barry went down to be one of the best RB ever to touch a ball...H e was all about the sport and making himself better and other as well. He really never got much camera time because he was reluctant to do interviews and just concerned himself with how to get better... he down played everything...
Since the 89 season he gained the rookie of the year award along with a spot in the pro bowl...along with 9 other appearances.
2 player of the year awards
15,269 yds
NFL hof...and the most humble man i or you would have met....
RUGator said 12/28, 11:50 PM
I can't argue Barry's greatness. Let's keep the NFL career out of the argument. First, this is about their college careers and second, there's no doubt as to who had the better pro career: Barry did. Again, I go back to fear factor, level of competition faced, and ability to change a game. It's a tough, close argument to be sure. I just know that I saw both Jackson and Walker in person play and both were THE most feared players ever to face my Gators. In the three areas I listed above, I have to give the edge, however, slight, to Bo Jackson. Well done.
Steveo16220 says:30 days left said 12/29, 12:11 AM
Ok well i just figured, cause it said heisman winners ever....but ok
Feared huh in his hisman year here are his games and stats
Game 1- Returned opening kickoff 100 yards for TD. 2 rushing TD's, including an 89-yarder with a total of 178yds
Game 2- 2 Trushing TD's, including a 58 yard score. Also had 61-yard punt return for TD
Game 3- 5 TDs; broke school record for yardage for the 1st of three times in '88 season with 304yds in the game...
no fear yet....will keep going....
Game 4- 4 TDs including 65-yard TD run 174 total rushing yds
Game 5- 4 TDs, 184 rushing yds...
Game 7- 3TD's 320 rushing yds....
Game 8- 2 TDs 215 rushing yds...
Game 9- 5 TDs; broke single-season TD record with 31 for the season at this point. with 312 rushing yds...
Game 10- 4 TDs including an 80-yard TD run, 293 rushing yds...
Game 11- 4 TDs with 332 rushing yds...along with the announcement of his winning of the heisman at game time in Tokyo Jp.
i'd be scared if i was a D-line or LB...
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Comments (18)
good choice with sanders
The A-Wall Show | 12/28/07, 10:57 PM
Report Offensive CommentRUgator, wow you were really in the mood for a TD ey?
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/28/07, 10:58 PM
Report Offensive CommentWait for Gators argument before I vote.
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/28/07, 10:58 PM
Report Offensive Commentwhoops the last part of argument 1 should say he ran for 222yds and 5 td's in 3 qrts....not 22yds
Steveo16220 says:30 days left | 12/28/07, 11:02 PM
Report Offensive CommentLove Sanders and Bo, but I'll go with Bo, because I've watched clips of each, and Bo was more athletic (proven by his multi-sport ability).
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/28/07, 11:20 PM
Report Offensive CommentBarry Sanders was a God that year. As an OU fan I know because he scared the bejesus out of us. If it want for HOF Thurman Thomas Barry would have had more touches and more hardware on his mantle.
Bo is best 2 sport athlete but the real debate is Herschal or Bo.. because Barry is top 2.
Sooner in WA- Cardinals blow | 12/28/07, 11:31 PM
Report Offensive CommentGood throwdown topic guys... so much to argue with this one
Sooner in WA- Cardinals blow | 12/28/07, 11:32 PM
Report Offensive CommentNice call on Barry... i wish he hadn't retired so early in his career. It would've been fun to watch him trample the rushing record. oh well....
DzNutz | 12/28/07, 11:33 PM
Report Offensive CommentSooner, I hear you on Sanders. Got to say though that I lived through Herschel as well. He was ridiculous. On par with Jackson. Never, ever saw a back as dangerous catching the ball out of the backfield. Tough argument, no doubt.
RUGator | 12/28/07, 11:39 PM
Report Offensive CommentBarry Sanders and Thurman Thomas in same backfield how did OSU not have better years with them.
Sooner in WA- Cardinals blow | 12/28/07, 11:40 PM
Report Offensive Commentwithout thurman it was a 2 loss season....88'
Steveo16220 says:30 days left | 12/28/07, 11:49 PM
Report Offensive CommentSorry RUGator,I'm gonna have to go with Steveo this one.
"Cincy" The wall | 12/28/07, 11:58 PM
Report Offensive CommentNo apologies needed. It's a great argument either way.
RUGator | 12/29/07, 12:02 AM
Report Offensive CommentBo Jackson wasn't just "good", I never saw him in the pros, but footage shows me a pure blend of speed, and power. If it wasn't for his injury, we would recognize him as a great running back, maybe even one of the greatest ever.
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/29/07, 12:36 AM
Report Offensive CommentI looked up Bo's numbers, and they aren't great yardage wise, because he only played a max of 10-11 games, but he averaged 5.4 YPR, that's amazing.
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/29/07, 12:38 AM
Report Offensive CommentAlso his numbers were low in his first two years, because he played FB.
Terpsfan is Maxwell Smart | 12/29/07, 12:39 AM
Report Offensive CommentTerpsfan, Thanks for getting my back.
RUGator | 12/29/07, 12:45 AM
Report Offensive Commenteither way you can balance both sports and expect to reign in both...not barrys fault that he stuck with one sport...bo was.. "good"
Steveo16220 says:30 days left | 12/29/07, 12:56 AM
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