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Totally justified.

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Is it a Doug Wilson problem though? He has been the the guy who has signed all these players, drafted the players, traded for these players & hired the 2 head coaches (firing 1 of them). He has put together a talented team with talented fun to watch players. But that doesn't make them great or the right fit. He brought in Blake, Boyle (huge $$$), Lemiuex & hired a new coach...same result: playoff losses. The 2 consistent things in all of this is the Sharks playoff disgrace every season & the GM that put them together.

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  04.30 by BauerStar33

Is it a Doug Wilson problem though? He has been the the guy who has signed all these players, drafted the players, traded for these players & hired the 2 head coaches (firing 1 of them). He has put together a talented team with talented fun to watch players. But that doesn't make them great or the right fit. He brought in Blake, Boyle (huge $$$), Lemiuex & hired a new coach...same result: playoff losses. The 2 consistent things in all of this is the Sharks playoff disgrace every season & the GM that put them together.

Agreed. Should've pointed his finger in 26 directions

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  04.30 by BauerStar33

Is it a Doug Wilson problem though? He has been the the guy who has signed all these players, drafted the players, traded for these players & hired the 2 head coaches (firing 1 of them). He has put together a talented team with talented fun to watch players. But that doesn't make them great or the right fit. He brought in Blake, Boyle (huge $$$), Lemiuex & hired a new coach...same result: playoff losses. The 2 consistent things in all of this is the Sharks playoff disgrace every season & the GM that put them together.

Sure, sure. Everyone knew throughout this season that the Sharks were going to lose their first two home games and get ousted in the first round by the eighth seed. The team that played in the regular season was a ridiculous team that just didn't show up in the playoffs. So, it's time to tweak a few things, not blow the team up. Previously I said Thorton and Marleau needed to stay, now I think one of them has to go. I think Cheechoo is useless without Thorton. Did Roenick, Pavelski, Lemieux, Moen, and setoguchi even play? Everyone's so quick to lay the blame at Joe's feet. Find two more puck moving defenders, mix speed with grit on the third and fourth lines, and find some help for thorton. But don't implode the team (like the leafs a while back) - and don't let the team get old (like the Avs).

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As well as he should be. I would think any GM of the team the wins the President's Trophy would be furious after a first round loss.

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Originally posted 09:25 AM ET  04.30 by DRW1AJN

Everyone's so quick to lay the blame at Joe's feet.

Why shouldn't people do that, he (again) displayed uninspired play in the playoffs. It's like he doesn't know that things are amped up in the playoffs, including the physical play. He's a big bodied dude that doesn't necessarily play a physical game. Someone the other day said how easy it was for the Ducks to defend him: he always veered out to the wings and looked to pass the majority of the time. He doesn't seem to want to go into the dirty areas. And he's making $6.67 mil per year. He's supposed to be their money player, but the only money part of him is the contract.

Joe's play in the series was indeed inconsistant. Should the Sharks move him? Perhaps since it is clear that he plays like a Euro and doesn't like to get his nose dirty, that the team finally realize that and get him a couple of hard nosed wingers that can shoot and bang it up to create the space for his timely and perfect passes. Marleau may be another story. He looked absolutely terrible. Cheecho has some passion and is a fine 3rd liner. Let it also be noted, that the Ducks brought a heck a a game plan to the series. Sometimes even playing hard and tough is not enough...Iginla for example could never be accused of being soft...I think the answer for Joe is on the wings.

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Originally posted 10:33 AM ET  04.30 by Baun-ded=PUCKHEAD

Joe's play in the series was indeed inconsistant. Should the Sharks move him? Perhaps since it is clear that he plays like a Euro and doesn't like to get his nose dirty, that the team finally realize that and get him a couple of hard nosed wingers that can shoot and bang it up to create the space for his timely and perfect passes. Marleau may be another story. He looked absolutely terrible. Cheecho has some passion and is a fine 3rd liner. Let it also be noted, that the Ducks brought a heck a a game plan to the series. Sometimes even playing hard and tough is not enough...Iginla for example could never be accused of being soft...I think the answer for Joe is on the wings.

You mean Euros like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc ?

San Jose reminds me of the Ottawa Senators Stanley Cup run team. Loads of talent, just lacks the playoff gotta-win-at-all-costs mentality.

As far as the Euro stereotype, that is quickly being quashed now... Ovechkin, Fedorov, Datsyuk, well all of Detroit... Malkin, Kreijci, Jokinen, Sedin & Sedin, Gonchar, even guys who didn't make the playoffs have heart... However, that being said, I still think Canada produces the most "know how to win" players in the world.

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Originally posted 11:19 AM ET  04.30 by Toronto Maple Leafs

SJ wont trade Thornton, they will give him a last chance but they will trade Marleau.

I think Cheechoo goes before Marleau...

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Originally posted 11:21 AM ET  04.30 by Toronto Maple Leafs

Ovie didn't show up in the first 3 games nor the last one.

Did you watch the games?

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  04.30 by BauerStar33

Is it a Doug Wilson problem though? He has been the the guy who has signed all these players, drafted the players, traded for these players & hired the 2 head coaches (firing 1 of them). He has put together a talented team with talented fun to watch players. But that doesn't make them great or the right fit. He brought in Blake, Boyle (huge $$$), Lemiuex & hired a new coach...same result: playoff losses. The 2 consistent things in all of this is the Sharks playoff disgrace every season & the GM that put them together.

Have to disagree. Do you think this team does not have enough to win? This one is not on the gm

That is very accurate! Jason Blake unfortunately does not possess the skill of Ovechkin though...

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Originally posted 11:49 AM ET  04.30 by Toronto Maple Leafs

Yes, in fact I did. I really noticed that Ovie doesn't like to pass, I've watched him before and I thought he passed more but he looked like Jason Blake out there shooting.

That is very accurate! Jason Blake unfortunately does not possess the skill of Ovechkin though...