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Detriot need some new pieces, their current team just won't cut it.

I believe Joe D. is working overtime to make Detroit one of the top teams again. He is really making use of his options and he has so many.

It's either you build to win now or go further under and wait till next season to compete with 12 other teams for the big names. Just tank next season at least you get a decent draft pick... there aint no such thing as halfway croog...

I mean - unloading Amir Johnson ? that's the master plan ?
certainly his back-up forward position could be upgraded,
but he's making only 3 mil- I really don't think thats a big deal

Here we go again with the salary cap analysis. detroit needs help, but what do the Thunder have to help them? They aren't trading Durrant or Westbrook. If OKC had enough "pieces" to share, they would have more than 23 wins.

Really? Amir for #15? This is T&R worthy?

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Originally posted 08:54 AM ET  06.02 by jgb

I mean - unloading Amir Johnson ? that's the master plan ?certainly his back-up forward position could be upgraded, but he's making only 3 mil- I really don't think thats a big deal

It is a big deal when you can unload that $3 Million and use it on a backup like Charlie Villanueva. That is a huge upgrade at the backup 3 spot. They need to unload some of those veterans if they can. I'm sick of seeing Rasheed Wallace play half of the time.

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Originally posted 09:47 AM ET  06.02 by biminator

Really? Amir for #15? This is T&R worthy?

We could have gotten Amir for Joe Johnson last summer but Joe didn't pull the trigger. =(

Joe Dumars is smart and dedicated enough to bring this team back to relevance but still wont be able t o compete with the top 3 teams in the East.

The Pistons will be fine. Joe D has always been a wiz in the free agent market, the draft though, not so much. Trade the #15 and Amir and get what you can for them. Maxiel is signed long term so there isn't really any room for Amir anyways.

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Originally posted 09:59 AM ET  06.02 by JOEYS

I'm sick of seeing Rasheed Wallace play half of the time.

Is that half the time of each game, or half the time he is actually ON the floor and IN the game?

Okay not really sure whats the purpose of this but Rasheed, AI, McDyess and walter Hermann are off the books thats almost 40 mil, so I would be expecting huge up grade in those position to make the team better. Joe knows what he is doing! I have faith in the guy

As far as I can read, Detroit has nice trade chips in Amir Johnson's expiring contract and the#15 pick. If the story is getting deeper under the salary cap to sign to FAs. Then please, T&R, name the bigshots that Joe D. might lure to Detroit. Also, where exactly do the Thunder fit into this T&R?

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Originally posted 09:59 AM ET  06.02 by JOEYS

It is a big deal when you can unload that $3 Million and use it on a backup like Charlie Villanueva. That is a huge upgrade at the backup 3 spot. They need to unload some of those veterans if they can. I'm sick of seeing Rasheed Wallace play half of the time.

I ABSOLUTELY hear that you're sick of Rasheed....

as far as CV- he ain't coming to mowtown for 3 mil...lol
hes not a 'stud' but he's going to get a 7-10 mil contract easy
-look at his stats 16+pts, 6.5 rbs.....

I'm not a big fan of his- but he's getting paid

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Originally posted 12:08 PM ET  06.02 by jgb

I ABSOLUTELY hear that you're sick of Rasheed....as far as CV- he ain't coming to mowtown for 3 mil...lolhes not a 'stud' but he's going to get a 7-10 mil contract easy-look at his stats 16+pts, 6.5 rbs.....I'm not a big fan of his- but he's getting paid

Well said. I'm neither a fan of CV but his numbers warrant a pay increase and a starting job on a bad team that will never get past the mendoza line. Do you think he'll really get 7-10? I dunno, maybe he will but I was thinking more 6-8.

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Originally posted 12:14 PM ET  06.02 by BIGGIE

Well said. I'm neither a fan of CV but his numbers warrant a pay increase and a starting job on a bad team that will never get past the mendoza line. Do you think he'll really get 7-10? I dunno, maybe he will but I was thinking more 6-8.

This is sports we are talking about where everybody is over paid, yes I think he could get that or come really close!

Dumars's incompetence is best described by two words: Darko Milicic.

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Originally posted 12:52 PM ET  06.02 by EmilZukharman

Dumars's incompetence is best described by two words: Darko Milicic.

what about the words '2004 NBA CHAMPIONS' ?

- he's not incompetant- he realized the 2008-9 pistons weren't going to COMPETE with the easts big 3 so instead of GUTTING the team- he decided to dump CB/salary- to try and make a run at a FA......

That's not 'incompetance' that's SMART BUSINESS.
-we'll see how 'dumb' he is when the season starts next year

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Originally posted 12:52 PM ET  06.02 by EmilZukharman

Dumars's incompetence is best described by two words: Darko Milicic.

What about when he traded for Chauncey billups and hamilton with placing bwallace at the center to win a championship, bold moves I think at that time. I dont like hamilton but the player Jdumars has made him you have to respect his game. They just need a consistant pf and a solid point guard, they have everything else once they upgrade, beware of the pistons

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According to a report from DraftExpress.com, DET top free agent targets are Ben Gordon and Paul Millsap. The Pistons currently have approximately $20 million in cap space, but could create more room by dealing the 15th overall pick, along with Amir Johnson.The Thunder are a potential trading partner, according to the report. They would likely look at B.J. Mullens with the pick.OKC would be able to take Amir + the #15 pick for nothing in return, maybe cash to DET : at #15 B.J. Mullens, 7' 1" would be a project : from ESPN : At the beginning of the season, he was ranked in our top five, but he slipped because although his talent remains, he is years away from being ready. However, a lottery team with lots of first-round picks can roll the dice and pray the gamble pays off.

Nova, that is good analysis and I believe that Detroit would love to have Millsap and get deeper under the cap. Between Amir Johnson, Kwame Brown, and the #15 pick, you'll see one or two, if not all three get dealt. I also believe Millsap will be in Utah next season as the owner of the Jazz has publicly stated he'll go over the cap and pay the luxury tax to keep Millsap. As for all of the hype surrounding Ben Gordon, don't believe it. Joe D. likes big guards that can muscle the opponent and play both the one and the two. Ben Gordon does not muscle anyone and he can only guard one position (and not very well).